Scott Pilgrim
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Post by Scott Pilgrim on Jan 4, 2019 2:27:13 GMT -5
44 points, 15 assists 10 rebounds!
Does this without CP3 and Eric Gordon, against 4 All-Stars.
Comeback win against the reigning champions, scoring so many clutch shots, especially the one at the end, this dude must be the clear MVP.
All this is happening while D720 Harden is averaging 20 points in the sim... BRB making a rebuild thread.
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Post by Stuff The Magic Dragon on Jan 6, 2019 23:53:01 GMT -5
I see you Norm!
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Scott Pilgrim
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Post by Scott Pilgrim on Jan 8, 2019 3:30:01 GMT -5
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Post by Stuff The Magic Dragon on Jan 8, 2019 23:10:04 GMT -5
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Post by Scott Pilgrim on Jan 8, 2019 23:27:38 GMT -5
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Post by Theodore Duncan on Jan 9, 2019 15:59:05 GMT -5
Shamet >> Trae Young! Let it rain young fella, let it rain!
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Jackie Kong
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Post by Jackie Kong on Jan 10, 2019 20:59:57 GMT -5
That was hilarious to me mostly because Harden wouldn't have been hit in his face if he was defending his guy instead of waiting for an easy rebound (stat padding).
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Post by David Robinson on Jan 11, 2019 10:42:10 GMT -5
I know LMA went in with 56, but Derrick White is the real deal and had a HUGE block on Grant!
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Post by Jackie Kong on Jan 11, 2019 10:58:49 GMT -5
I know LMA went in with 56, but Derrick White is the real deal and had a HUGE block on Grant! Yeah. That game had the highest total score in 12 years! In 2 OTs but still. Spurs' shooting %s were ridiculous: 56-99 FG (56.6%), 16-19 3P (84.2%), 26-29 FT (89.7%).
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Post by Penny Hardaway on Jan 13, 2019 15:44:08 GMT -5
Dont know how to do the whole poat video thing but KAT had a 27/27 game, one of 4 only players in nba history.
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Post by Nino Brown on Jan 13, 2019 16:05:53 GMT -5
Dont know how to do the whole poat video thing but KAT had a 27/27 game, one of 4 only players in nba history. Young ‘Wilt Anthony Towns’
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2019 18:03:09 GMT -5
43-10-15 game for beal
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Steve Jobs
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Post by Steve Jobs on Jan 13, 2019 18:20:35 GMT -5
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Post by Nino Brown on Jan 13, 2019 18:28:13 GMT -5
it only took two entire overtime periods and they still lost the game...
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Post by Ron Artest(1x Champ) on Jan 13, 2019 18:32:16 GMT -5
This is an entire debate on twitter right now 😅
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Post by Steve Jobs on Jan 13, 2019 18:39:41 GMT -5
it only took two entire overtime periods and they still lost the game... LMFAO. Oh no, they lost by two in double overtime to the team with the best record in the league, I guess that negates how well he played! Shucks! Come on, the point is clearly that Beals ability to be a go to guy and run an offense far outstrips what Klay can do, and treating him like he’s less valuable than Klay in a trade is (and should be) absolutely absurd to anyone who is paying attention.
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Post by Nino Brown on Jan 13, 2019 18:57:14 GMT -5
it only took two entire overtime periods and they still lost the game... LMFAO. Oh no, they lost by two in double overtime to the team with the best record in the league, I guess that negates how well he played! Shucks! Come on, the point is clearly that Beals ability to be a go to guy and run an offense far outstrips what Klay can do, and treating him like he’s less valuable than Klay in a trade is (and should be) absolutely absurd to anyone who is paying attention. the only thing Beal has shown he’s better at this far in his career is facilitating, and even that component of his game didn’t show until last season. He’s literally inferior everywhere else as far as shooting, efficiency, and defense. Also in the case of this sim, an elite 3 and D guy beats a guy that’s solely great offensively, especially if his skillset is redundant in context to said persons team, not to mention Dp is the second most important attribute in the sim...
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Post by Jackie Kong on Jan 13, 2019 19:02:26 GMT -5
not to mention Dp is the second most important attribute in the sim... Which attribute is more important than Dp? Lol. There are others that might be as important but those are easier to get (Di, 3).
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Post by Nino Brown on Jan 13, 2019 19:04:41 GMT -5
not to mention Dp is the second most important attribute in the sim... Which attribute is more important than Dp? Lol. There are others that might be as important but those are easier to get (Di, 3). from excessivly reading the basketball gm sub on Reddit, Di would appear the most important attribute to have, then Dp and then the others I suppose.
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Post by Steve Jobs on Jan 13, 2019 19:10:29 GMT -5
LMFAO. Oh no, they lost by two in double overtime to the team with the best record in the league, I guess that negates how well he played! Shucks! Come on, the point is clearly that Beals ability to be a go to guy and run an offense far outstrips what Klay can do, and treating him like he’s less valuable than Klay in a trade is (and should be) absolutely absurd to anyone who is paying attention. the only thing Beal has shown he’s better at this far in his career is facilitating, and even that component of his game didn’t show until last season. He’s literally inferior everywhere else as far as shooting, efficiency, and defense. Also in the case of this sim, an elite 3 and D guy beats a guy that’s solely great offensively, especially if his skillset is redundant in context to said persons team, not to mention Dp is the second most important attribute in the sim... The literal only thing Klay is consistently great at on offense is shooting the three. He absolutely could never be a first option. And him having the Dp attribute is a huge fucking joke. Not only do absolutely none of the stats bear it out, but most of his reputation has come from “shutting down” Westbrook in the middle of his chuck fests. Plenty of stars regularly play well against him.
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Post by billy on Jan 13, 2019 19:31:01 GMT -5
Which attribute is more important than Dp? Lol. There are others that might be as important but those are easier to get (Di, 3). from excessivly reading the basketball gm sub on Reddit, Di would appear the most important attribute to have, then Dp and then the others I suppose. You can see common links between underperforming and overperforming teams and they all have good interior defenders and probaably have good team perimeter defense. Get a bunch of Dps together and some luck and you can go on quite a run in the playoffs.
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Scott Pilgrim
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Post by Scott Pilgrim on Jan 13, 2019 19:31:22 GMT -5
y'all guys disrespecting buddy hield here, best SG in the NBA.
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Jackie Kong
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Post by Jackie Kong on Jan 13, 2019 19:31:33 GMT -5
from excessivly reading the basketball gm sub on Reddit, Di would appear the most important attribute to have, then Dp and then the others I suppose. Yes. It is true. You must have at least 1 player with Di if you want to win some games. Dp is more rare though. At least that was the case by a large margin last season.
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Post by Nino Brown on Jan 13, 2019 19:34:16 GMT -5
the only thing Beal has shown he’s better at this far in his career is facilitating, and even that component of his game didn’t show until last season. He’s literally inferior everywhere else as far as shooting, efficiency, and defense. Also in the case of this sim, an elite 3 and D guy beats a guy that’s solely great offensively, especially if his skillset is redundant in context to said persons team, not to mention Dp is the second most important attribute in the sim... The literal only thing Klay is consistently great at on offense is shooting the three. He absolutely could never be a first option. And him having the Dp attribute is a huge fucking joke. Not only do absolutely none of the stats bear it out, but most of his reputation has come from “shutting down” Westbrook in the middle of his chuck fests. Plenty of stars regularly play well against him. Neither guy is capable of being the best player on a championship team. Secondly, he’s a great defender, he runs around the entire game trying to get open for a shot and is still able to play really good on ball defense. Also you could literally apply the following statement to any good/great defender, Beal dropped 40 plus on the same court occupied with a top 3 defender in the league, and a great defense in general. Great offense > great defense in most cases. The Warriors have consistently been one of the better defensive teams in the league over their run, it’s delusional to think Klay hasn’t been a great part of why. Remember they were winning before KD showed up. Is he elite?(Kawhi, Dray, Gobert, PG, etc?...) absolutely not, but he’s in that next tier. Also it must not be overlooked that Klay has helped completely change the way basketball is played, the 3 ball wasn’t this prevalent before he and Curry came along.
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Post by billy on Jan 13, 2019 19:37:48 GMT -5
the only thing Beal has shown he’s better at this far in his career is facilitating, and even that component of his game didn’t show until last season. He’s literally inferior everywhere else as far as shooting, efficiency, and defense. Also in the case of this sim, an elite 3 and D guy beats a guy that’s solely great offensively, especially if his skillset is redundant in context to said persons team, not to mention Dp is the second most important attribute in the sim... The literal only thing Klay is consistently great at on offense is shooting the three. He absolutely could never be a first option. And him having the Dp attribute is a huge fucking joke. Not only do absolutely none of the stats bear it out, but most of his reputation has come from “shutting down” Westbrook in the middle of his chuck fests. Plenty of stars regularly play well against him. Yeah Klay doesn't deserve Dp.
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Post by Nino Brown on Jan 13, 2019 19:47:20 GMT -5
The literal only thing Klay is consistently great at on offense is shooting the three. He absolutely could never be a first option. And him having the Dp attribute is a huge fucking joke. Not only do absolutely none of the stats bear it out, but most of his reputation has come from “shutting down” Westbrook in the middle of his chuck fests. Plenty of stars regularly play well against him. Yeah Klay doesn't deserve Dp. if this is the case, someone like James Harden shouldn’t have it either
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Post by billy on Jan 13, 2019 19:58:32 GMT -5
Yeah Klay doesn't deserve Dp. if this is the case, someone like James Harden shouldn’t have it either Well, James Harden is like 6th in his position with qualifying minutes at DBPM, the same position Klay is at where he ranks like kajillionth. That's the stat we use, along with STL%. Harden is hovering around the top 5-10 depending on if you wanna count the stl% of people who have half as many minutes as him, while klay is like half a kajillionth. ftr they are both garbage in PIPM
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Post by Scott Pilgrim on Jan 13, 2019 19:59:02 GMT -5
Yeah Klay doesn't deserve Dp. if this is the case, someone like James Harden shouldn’t have it either Lol, can't wait for 27 defensive iq James Harden. James Harden is a better defender than Beal, at least give him that right to hold.
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Post by Nino Brown on Jan 13, 2019 20:13:01 GMT -5
if this is the case, someone like James Harden shouldn’t have it either Well, James Harden is like 6th in his position with qualifying minutes at DBPM, the same position Klay is at where he ranks like kajillionth. That's the stat we use, along with STL%. Harden is hovering around the top 5-10 depending on if you wanna count the stl% of people who have half as many minutes as him, while klay is like half a kajillionth. ftr they are both garbage in PIPM he has a negative drpm, which is probably a more important stat, but advanced stats in general can be tricky, and defense as a whole has to be better contextualized, a lot of Harden’s steals come from ripping big men and sagging off defenders to steal entry passes, I could post a compilation of his “defense”, and I could post a compilation of Klay’s defense and after that you can decide who you’d consider a better defender.
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Post by Ron Artest(1x Champ) on Jan 13, 2019 20:41:55 GMT -5
It’s almost impossible to take Defense at face value in the nba, even using Advanced metrics. Even Kobe Bryant, easily a top 10 nba player of all time, also known as a great two way player has a career negative DBPM www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bryanko01.html while Harden so far in his career has a positive one, even if just barely. I don’t think anyone would consider Harden a better defender than Kobe or Klay if it came down to it, and it isn’t particularly debatable. I say this to say, Klay isn’t a lockdown defender by any means, but he’s a hell of a lot better at defense than majority of the defenders in the league, especially when you factor in his entire offensive game is running around the court trying to find an open shot most of the time. The energy he expands on offense only to be able to come back down on the other end and play face to chest on ball defense is why he has the reputation he has.... seriously put his stamina at 100!
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