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Post by Penny Hardaway on Aug 5, 2018 7:06:04 GMT -5
Warriors Trade:
Chicago's 2020 1st ( top 3 protected)
(65) Zach Lavine 16,500,000, 17,350,000 ,18,100,000 ,18,850,000
(58) Bojan Bogdanovic $6,510,000 , 5,520,000$5,520,000
(61) Tiago Splitter $2,300,000 (dead money)
Total =$25,310,000
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Hornets Trade:
(69) C.J. McCollum $27,225,000$29,700,000$32,175,000$34,650,000
Total=$27,225,000
This moves our goal faster along as we get the upgrade we want and like at our sg position to run with Curry as McCollum is more proven then Lavine and more durable and signed same length as Curry and ia here to stay. Warriora agree
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2018 7:25:02 GMT -5
I accept. I know I’ve now gone from Butler to McCollum to LaVine, but I like the contract that LaVine signed and the Chicago pick could be lottery. I think I’ve quietly put together a nice core this summer with Monk/Knox/Collins and now we can add LaVine to that mix, with potentially 2 lotto picks in 2019 and 2 in 2020.
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Post by Ron Artest(1x Champ) on Aug 5, 2018 7:33:42 GMT -5
Rejecting this for a few reasons
1. Lavine is a substantial downgrade from McCollum, and I don’t think Bulls trajectory screams lottery pick in two years, even if it does, that’s two years from now. For comparisons sake, the best player on my team a few months ago was Draymond Green, not shabby, but I gained a top 5 player in free agency. Two years is too much uncertainty. Booker and Fultz alone could make the Bulls semi competitive this year nevermind in two years.
2. Warriors are putting themselves in the same situation they justified trying to trade Curry for, and then eventually Gobert and Oladipo, KAT still has to get paid. Do they have aspirations to bring PG back? Financially I’m not seeing the positive for Golden State, even though I like this move better for them stylistically speaking.
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Post by Stuff The Magic Dragon on Aug 5, 2018 7:37:13 GMT -5
pretty sure the Warriors are choking themselves here with long-term cap flexibility
not rejecting yet
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Post by Paul Pierce on Aug 5, 2018 7:39:26 GMT -5
I accept, Charlotte has already chosen the path of rebuilding and netting Lavine a first and bojan isn't bad at all.
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Post by Penny Hardaway on Aug 5, 2018 7:45:57 GMT -5
For all you guys talking cap weve explained this before. We didnt want to pay THAT team luxury penalty we didnt like our roster and didnt want to commit to them long term so we made roster moves we felt will work better. It was never about the freaking money it was about the team we had decide to commit to pay luxurt for and it was a clear no for us, now that we are deeper and we think fit better we have no luxury concern as we have a better chance for a title now.
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Post by billy on Aug 5, 2018 7:57:41 GMT -5
I accept. I know I’ve now gone from Butler to McCollum to LaVine, but I like the contract that LaVine signed and the Chicago pick could be lottery. I think I’ve quietly put together a nice core this summer with Monk/Knox/Collins and now we can add LaVine to that mix, with potentially 2 lotto picks in 2019 and 2 in 2020. I think it'll be really fun to watch. An intriguing core to most, I personally think all those players suck giant dicks so your team could be a dumpster fire and we have no idea. Fun. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2018 8:04:38 GMT -5
I accept. I know I’ve now gone from Butler to McCollum to LaVine, but I like the contract that LaVine signed and the Chicago pick could be lottery. I think I’ve quietly put together a nice core this summer with Monk/Knox/Collins and now we can add LaVine to that mix, with potentially 2 lotto picks in 2019 and 2 in 2020. I think it'll be really fun to watch. An intriguing core to most, I personally think all those players suck giant dicks so your team could be a dumpster fire and we have no idea. Fun. If you think they suck then honestly that makes me feel better about my moves, considering your history of player evaluation. Okafor over KAT, anyone? |
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Post by Penny Hardaway on Aug 5, 2018 8:08:35 GMT -5
Rejecting this for a few reasons 1. Lavine is a substantial downgrade from McCollum, and I don’t think Bulls trajectory screams lottery pick in two years, even if it does, that’s two years from now. For comparisons sake, the best player on my team a few months ago was Draymond Green, not shabby, but I gained a top 5 player in free agency. Two years is too much uncertainty. Booker and Fultz alone could make the Bulls semi competitive this year nevermind in two years. 2. Warriors are putting themselves in the same situation they justified trying to trade Curry for, and then eventually Gobert and Oladipo, KAT still has to get paid. Do they have aspirations to bring PG back? Financially I’m not seeing the positive for Golden State, even though I like this move better for them stylistically speaking. Number 2 is wrong. We stated from beginning we had to trade Gobert or Curry so we uave wiggle room and thats exactly what we did its been a snowball ever since because we knew we had to trade one of our 2 highest paid players to have that room , so we can get a team we like not you guys. Odalipo had nothing to do with finances we , dont think Odalipo can keep it up and we liked tbe 5th pick better. Yes we still have kat to sign and we still have plenty of moving parts , we trust ourselves and we know what we are doing, we arent worried. Especially if we are winning. |
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Post by billy on Aug 5, 2018 8:12:09 GMT -5
I think it'll be really fun to watch. An intriguing core to most, I personally think all those players suck giant dicks so your team could be a dumpster fire and we have no idea. Fun. If you think they suck then honestly that makes me feel better about my moves, considering your history of player evaluation. Okafor over KAT, anyone? You're an awesome person. I'll make sure to let you join again after being fired for the 5th time. |
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Post by Stuff The Magic Dragon on Aug 5, 2018 8:29:13 GMT -5
For all you guys talking cap weve explained this before. We didnt want to pay THAT team luxury penalty we didnt like our roster and didnt want to commit to them long term so we made roster moves we felt will work better. It was never about the freaking money it was about the team we had decide to commit to pay luxurt for and it was a clear no for us, now that we are deeper and we think fit better we have no luxury concern as we have a better chance for a title now. bruh, have you done any salary projections after this trade? Lavine and Randle's new contracts have yet to be added to the 2018/19 salary plus you'll be signing KAT next year, and I don't think he would be cheap. you'll be paying CJ almost $30 Million next year, do the math bröther. anyway, I'll accept this trade  |
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Post by Penny Hardaway on Aug 5, 2018 8:33:30 GMT -5
For all you guys talking cap weve explained this before. We didnt want to pay THAT team luxury penalty we didnt like our roster and didnt want to commit to them long term so we made roster moves we felt will work better. It was never about the freaking money it was about the team we had decide to commit to pay luxurt for and it was a clear no for us, now that we are deeper and we think fit better we have no luxury concern as we have a better chance for a title now. bruh, have you done any salary projections after this trade? Lavine and Randle's new contracts have yet to be added to the 2018/19 salary plus you'll be signing KAT next year, and I don't think he would be cheap. you'll be paying CJ almost $30 Million next year, do the math bröther. anyway, I'll accept this trade Lol yes i have even inquired about extending him this offseason, like i said i have moving pieces aka i have players i can trade and other moves as i have until dec 7 bro. If Im not sweating it neither should you. |
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Post by Ron Artest(1x Champ) on Aug 5, 2018 8:36:11 GMT -5
I accept. I know I’ve now gone from Butler to McCollum to LaVine, but I like the contract that LaVine signed and the Chicago pick could be lottery. I think I’ve quietly put together a nice core this summer with Monk/Knox/Collins and now we can add LaVine to that mix, with potentially 2 lotto picks in 2019 and 2 in 2020. I think it'll be really fun to watch. An intriguing core to most, I personally think all those players suck giant dicks so your team could be a dumpster fire and we have no idea. Fun. I feel like I’m the only person in the world besides Joe Budden that likes Knox. |
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Post by Stuff The Magic Dragon on Aug 5, 2018 8:36:33 GMT -5
bruh, have you done any salary projections after this trade? Lavine and Randle's new contracts have yet to be added to the 2018/19 salary plus you'll be signing KAT next year, and I don't think he would be cheap. you'll be paying CJ almost $30 Million next year, do the math bröther. anyway, I'll accept this trade Lol yes i have even inquired about extending him this offseason, like i said i have moving pieces aka i have players i can trade and other moves as i have until dec 7 bro. If Im not sweating it neither should you. accepted already, calm those tiddies |
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Post by Ron Artest(1x Champ) on Aug 5, 2018 8:37:37 GMT -5
Rejecting this for a few reasons 1. Lavine is a substantial downgrade from McCollum, and I don’t think Bulls trajectory screams lottery pick in two years, even if it does, that’s two years from now. For comparisons sake, the best player on my team a few months ago was Draymond Green, not shabby, but I gained a top 5 player in free agency. Two years is too much uncertainty. Booker and Fultz alone could make the Bulls semi competitive this year nevermind in two years. 2. Warriors are putting themselves in the same situation they justified trying to trade Curry for, and then eventually Gobert and Oladipo, KAT still has to get paid. Do they have aspirations to bring PG back? Financially I’m not seeing the positive for Golden State, even though I like this move better for them stylistically speaking. Number 2 is wrong. We stated from beginning we had to trade Gobert or Curry so we uave wiggle room and thats exactly what we did its been a snowball ever since because we knew we had to trade one of our 2 highest paid players to have that room , so we can get a team we like not you guys. Odalipo had nothing to do with finances we , dont think Odalipo can keep it up and we liked tbe 5th pick better. Yes we still have kat to sign and we still have plenty of moving parts , we trust ourselves and we know what we are doing, we arent worried. Especially if we are winning. you traded the 5th pick you ‘liked better’... |
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Post by Penny Hardaway on Aug 5, 2018 8:38:46 GMT -5
Lol yes i have even inquired about extending him this offseason, like i said i have moving pieces aka i have players i can trade and other moves as i have until dec 7 bro. If Im not sweating it neither should you. accepted already, calm those tiddies Lol i am calm....dont make me mad! But nah i didn't mean no harm but you did kinda question if i knew what i was doing, just making sure you knew i did |
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Post by Penny Hardaway on Aug 5, 2018 8:39:23 GMT -5
Number 2 is wrong. We stated from beginning we had to trade Gobert or Curry so we uave wiggle room and thats exactly what we did its been a snowball ever since because we knew we had to trade one of our 2 highest paid players to have that room , so we can get a team we like not you guys. Odalipo had nothing to do with finances we , dont think Odalipo can keep it up and we liked tbe 5th pick better. Yes we still have kat to sign and we still have plenty of moving parts , we trust ourselves and we know what we are doing, we arent worried. Especially if we are winning. you traded the 5th pick you ‘liked better’... Ya because PG was better isnt that what trading is? |
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Post by Paul Pierce on Aug 5, 2018 8:45:12 GMT -5
you traded the 5th pick you ‘liked better’... Ya because PG was better isnt that what trading is? Curry McCollum PG Is a sick lineup especially if you resign PG |
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Post by Stuff The Magic Dragon on Aug 5, 2018 8:45:12 GMT -5
accepted already, calm those tiddies Lol i am calm....dont make me mad! But nah i didn't mean no harm but you did kinda question if i knew what i was doing, just making sure you knew i did alrighty |
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Post by Ron Artest(1x Champ) on Aug 5, 2018 8:47:12 GMT -5
So was Paul George simply brought in to win a ring this season, because he’s gonna he almost impossible to sign is what I’m getting at. Curry, KAT, and McCollum are all pretty much making max dollars next year. Bagley for one year of PG might not be worth it, but eh.
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Post by Paul Pierce on Aug 5, 2018 8:47:52 GMT -5
So was Paul George simply brought in to win a ring this season, because he’s gonna he almost impossible to sign is what I’m getting at. Curry, KAT, and McCollum are all pretty much making max dollars next year. Bagley for one year of PG might not be worth it, but eh. bird rights |
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Post by Ron Artest(1x Champ) on Aug 5, 2018 8:49:46 GMT -5
Ya because PG was better isnt that what trading is? Curry McCollum PG Is a sick lineup especially if you resign PG it is, but I doubt he’ll be able to sign PG. he’ll command the max, Curry is on a max deal and KAT will be too. On top of that McCollum will make just under the max. That’s close to 120 million for 4 guys... |
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Post by Ron Artest(1x Champ) on Aug 5, 2018 8:51:13 GMT -5
So was Paul George simply brought in to win a ring this season, because he’s gonna he almost impossible to sign is what I’m getting at. Curry, KAT, and McCollum are all pretty much making max dollars next year. Bagley for one year of PG might not be worth it, but eh. bird rights ah |
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Post by Paul Pierce on Aug 5, 2018 8:51:23 GMT -5
Curry McCollum PG Is a sick lineup especially if you resign PG it is, but I doubt he’ll be able to sign PG. he’ll command the max, Curry is on a max deal and KAT will be too. On top of that McCollum will make just under the max. That’s close to 120 million for 4 guys... Kat won't get payed until after PG is resigned. I think he can do it if he cuts down his depth a little bit |
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Post by Paul Pierce on Aug 5, 2018 8:51:39 GMT -5
still possible he leaves tho |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2018 9:24:16 GMT -5
If you think they suck then honestly that makes me feel better about my moves, considering your history of player evaluation. Okafor over KAT, anyone? You're an awesome person. I'll make sure to let you join again after being fired for the 5th time. u won’t m8 |
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Post by Steve Jobs on Aug 5, 2018 9:25:35 GMT -5
Ya because PG was better isnt that what trading is? Curry McCollum PG Is a sick lineup especially if you resign PG Is McCollum really a significantly different player than Lavine? Lavine is good from three, bad at defense, and a long term question mark just like McCollum... except he’s significantly younger and just signed a contract that is enormously team friendly unless Lavine just truly can’t figure out how to basketball again (I think he proved last season that this isn’t a real concern). |
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Post by Paul Pierce on Aug 5, 2018 9:33:55 GMT -5
Curry McCollum PG Is a sick lineup especially if you resign PG Is McCollum really a significantly different player than Lavine? Lavine is good from three, bad at defense, and a long term question mark just like McCollum... except he’s significantly younger and just signed a contract that is enormously team friendly unless Lavine just truly can’t figure out how to basketball again (I think he proved last season that this isn’t a real concern). Mccoulum is a much better player than lavine as of now. He was bad last year coming off the injury |
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Post by Penny Hardaway on Aug 5, 2018 10:12:38 GMT -5
2-1 accept so far
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Post by White Mamba on Aug 5, 2018 10:40:22 GMT -5
This is an easy accept, I can see it working out for both teams. This league is way too quick to reject trades, there's no way charlotte gets a better package than this for CJ.
I do think gsw gets the better end here but that's because I don't like Lavine. If I'm wrong about him it could also go the other way. And that Chicago pick could be great, none of his players are proven stars.
Also why does everything have to be so personal here? Just because someone else disagrees with your basketball analysis doesn't mean you should go after their character. Just agree to disagree. Smh
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