Yeezy
 Dallas Mavericks
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Post by Yeezy on Jun 5, 2019 15:57:05 GMT -5
Philadelphia 76ers send:
Dwight Howard $20,000,000 $20,000,000
Timothe Luwawu-Cabarrot $4,000,000 (dead contract)
IND 2020 2nd
DEN 2020 2nd
Total: $24,000,000 (x 1,25 = $30,000,000)
Philadelphia 76ers receive:
Dante Exum $10,000,000 $10,000,000 $10,000,000
Deron Williams $8,750,000 (dead contract)
Hollis Thompson $6,250,000 (dead contract)
DeAndre Daniels $5,000,000 (dead contract)
2019 44th pick
Total: $30,000,000
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Miami Heat send:
Justin Anderson $2,036,711 $2,977,671 (QO)
Hollis Thompson $6,250,000 (dead contract)
DeAndre Daniels $5,000,000 (dead contract)
Nick Young $3,000,000 (dead contract)
Okaro White $990,000 (dead contract)
2019 35th pick
2k Billy Bucks
Total: $17,276,711
Miami Heat receive:
Cristiano Felicio $3,010,000 $2,020,000 $1,030,000
Total: $3,010,000
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Heat will buyout Henson's dead contract. Cap space before trade: $16,350,139; Cap space after trade: $30,616,850; Cap space needed for buyout: $30,000,000
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Dallas Mavericks send:
Dante Exum $10,000,000 $10,000,000 $10,000,000
Cristiano Felicio $3,010,000 $2,020,000 $1,030,000
Deron Williams $8,750,000 (dead contract)
Corey Brewer $5,300,000 (dead contract)
Timofey Mozgov $1,300,000 (dead contract)
2019 44th pick
Total: $28,360,000 (x 1,25 = $35,450,000)
Dallas Mavericks receive:
Dwight Howard $20,000,000 $20,000,000
Justin Anderson $2,036,711 $2,977,671 (QO)
Timothe Luwawu-Cabarrot $4,000,000 (dead contract)
Nick Young $3,000,000 (dead contract)
Luc Mbah a Moute $2,525,531 (dead contract)
Zhou Qi $1,428,200 (dead contract)
Lance Thomas $1,275,000 (dead contract)
Kenneth Faried $990,000 (dead contract)
2019 35th pick
IND 2020 2nd
DEN 2020 2nd
Total: $35,255,442
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Orlando Magic send:
Luc Mbah a Moute $2,525,531 (dead contract)
Zhou Qi $1,428,200 (dead contract)
Lance Thomas $1,275,000 (dead contract)
Kenneth Faried $990,000 (dead contract)
Total: $6,218,731 (x 1,25 = $7,773,413)
Orlando Magic receive:
Corey Brewer $5,300,000 (dead contract)
Timofey Mozgov $1,300,000 (dead contract)
Okaro White $990,000 (dead contract)
2k Billy Bucks
Total: $7,590,000
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Post by Stuff The Magic Dragon on Jun 5, 2019 17:33:49 GMT -5
Accept. Billy Bucks > Picks
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Steve Jobs
 Oklahoma City Thunder
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Post by Steve Jobs on Jun 5, 2019 18:24:08 GMT -5
Accept. Billy Bucks > Picks Wtf |
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Paul Pierce
 Chicago Bulls
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Post by Paul Pierce on Jun 5, 2019 18:29:13 GMT -5
how does Dallas shed salary and get all the picks lol
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Jackie Kong
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Post by Jackie Kong on Jun 5, 2019 19:21:01 GMT -5
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Post by Stuff The Magic Dragon on Jun 5, 2019 21:25:03 GMT -5
how does Dallas shed salary and get all the picks lol [redacted] |
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Scott Pilgrim
 Philadelphia 76ers
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Post by Scott Pilgrim on Jun 6, 2019 1:18:23 GMT -5
accept
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Post by Stuff The Magic Dragon on Jun 13, 2019 21:47:53 GMT -5
🤔
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Steve Jobs
Oklahoma City Thunder
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Post by Steve Jobs on Jun 13, 2019 22:49:51 GMT -5
Accept.
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Shaq O'Neal
 LA Clippers
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Post by Shaq O'Neal on Jun 13, 2019 23:06:06 GMT -5
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Steve Jobs
Oklahoma City Thunder
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Post by Steve Jobs on Jun 13, 2019 23:10:08 GMT -5
Oh whoops, I wasn’t paying attention and thought Scott’s accept was a vote. Let’s just delete this shit, it’s been over a week and Miami hasn’t accepted. If it’s still gonna happen just repost it again when everyone is ready.
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Scott Pilgrim
Philadelphia 76ers
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Post by Scott Pilgrim on Jun 13, 2019 23:28:40 GMT -5
Oh whoops, I wasn’t paying attention and thought Scott’s accept was a vote. Let’s just delete this shit, it’s been over a week and Miami hasn’t accepted. If it’s still gonna happen just repost it again when everyone is ready. Miami hasn't been online for 10 days... |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2019 1:10:21 GMT -5
This trade has repercussions in it bc we've have used parts of it in other trades
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Scott Pilgrim
Philadelphia 76ers
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Post by Scott Pilgrim on Jun 14, 2019 2:52:07 GMT -5
lets wait another couple of days lol
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Steve Jobs
Oklahoma City Thunder
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Post by Steve Jobs on Jun 14, 2019 12:02:16 GMT -5
This trade has repercussions in it bc we've have used parts of it in other trades What other trades? |
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Shaq O'Neal
LA Clippers
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Post by Shaq O'Neal on Jun 14, 2019 12:32:43 GMT -5
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Shaq O'Neal
LA Clippers
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Post by Shaq O'Neal on Jun 14, 2019 12:42:13 GMT -5
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billy
 Miami Heat
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Post by billy on Jun 14, 2019 12:48:03 GMT -5
Miami is fired
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Shaq O'Neal
LA Clippers
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Post by Shaq O'Neal on Jun 14, 2019 12:53:19 GMT -5
So does this trade not happen? |
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Steve Jobs
Oklahoma City Thunder
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Post by Steve Jobs on Jun 14, 2019 14:03:57 GMT -5
So does this trade not happen? Yuuuup. Miami never accepted. I’m sure the subsequent trades that relied on this one can be, in one way or another, amended to make them still possible. If not they’ll get voided too. |
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Jackie Kong
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Post by Jackie Kong on Jun 14, 2019 14:04:43 GMT -5
Can we just go back to Billy voting on trades?
Honestly, this happens because the TC is more about getting power than doing what is right. You can hate on that DEN-DAL trade all you want but there was nothing franchise ruining about it and in some other moment that argument would have applied instead of the personal crusade that went on and I am not talking about Billy voting but the TC using the "franchise ruining argument".
Maybe I am just mad but I feel like TC was more interested in messing with the DAL pick when they voted on those MIN trades than actually looking at what was going on.
For one, they shouldn't have voted on those trades because they were not valid trades until this went through. GMs need to make sure that what they post is valid but so is the TC. Normally, I would do that as counsel but it is not my job.
2nd, there is nothing rejectable about those trades but some of the comments are funny because you make it look like MIN made some great trades when the fact is they are going on a suicide mission with an 8th seed sort of team with mostly old players with big contracts and no picks whatsoever.
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Steve Jobs
Oklahoma City Thunder
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Post by Steve Jobs on Jun 14, 2019 14:24:02 GMT -5
Can we just go back to Billy voting on trades? Honestly, this happens because the TC is more about getting power than doing what is right. You can hate on that DEN-DAL trade all you want but there was nothing franchise ruining about it and in some other moment that argument would have applied instead of the personal crusade that went on and I am not talking about Billy voting but the TC using the "franchise ruining argument". Maybe I am just mad but I feel like TC was more interested in messing with the DAL pick when they voted on those MIN trades than actually looking at what was going on. For one, they shouldn't have voted on those trades because they were not valid trades until this went through. GMs need to make sure that what they post is valid but so is the TC. Normally, I would do that as counsel but it is not my job. 2nd, there is nothing rejectable about those trades but some of the comments are funny because you make it look like MIN made some great trades when the fact is they are going on a suicide mission with an 8th seed sort of team with mostly old players with big contracts and no picks whatsoever. This is a fault of the entire league, from TC not recognizing assets being moved that were part of a trade that had yet to be passed, to the GMs involved in the trades not only posting trades that couldn’t be executed until a previous deal was completed but also failing to mention that the trade couldn’t happen until the previous deal was done. Every part of that needs to improve and everyone here obviously recognizes as much. What this is NOT, is some kind of power play based on anything to do with the DAL-DEN deal or any of DAL’s picks. Don’t be such a giant baby that you insert narratives into situations when they don’t exist. That DAL-DEN trade was horrible, absolutely had big time potential to be franchise ruining, and has yet to receive a single accept vote. The trades MIN made have been perfectly functional trades for a team invested in winning... hard to argue that KG’s legit version of grabbing undervalued talent to benefit a year where he has no choice but to carry a lot of salary and no pick to justify tanking is as bad or worse than Doc’s version where he grabs a guy who was barely a star at his peak and whose decline has been quick and severe at the cost of any semblance of depth AND gives up assets to put himself in that position. I’d have Doc rejected that even if Doc hadn’t been involved and I know I’m not the only one. |
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Jackie Kong
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Post by Jackie Kong on Jun 14, 2019 14:57:14 GMT -5
"Baby". I get tired of feeling like you are constantly trying to manipulate the TC.
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Steve Jobs
Oklahoma City Thunder
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Post by Steve Jobs on Jun 14, 2019 15:06:59 GMT -5
"Baby". I get tired of feeling like you are constantly trying to manipulate the TC. Yeah, me doing my job as a TC member and stating arguments I have for why a trade is or isn’t acceptable in such a way that other TC members can use it as reference for their own personal feelings if they so choose is just so manipulative. Fuck me, right? I’ve never once demanded a TC member think like me, vote like me, or even acknowledge my arguments... I’ve never went to PMs to discuss trade voting with any of the TC... fuck, historically I’m as or more likely to completely sit out voting to avoid muddying the waters on a trade I’m personally not a huge fan of but that probably doesn’t deserve to get rejected. I’ve been a part of this league about as long as it’s existed and I specifically took on responsibilities within the league to help make sure the league could flourish and grow. I guess it’s only now that someone finally noticed how impure my motives were. And fucking LOL I just now realized that part of why you’re so butthurt is that you think KG’s motivations for adding talent is to hurt Yeezy’s odds of getting a good pick from MIN and that is truly ridiculous. As if there is no benefit in actively trying to win even when a title isn’t inherently likely, nor any reasonable motivation for having a good team except to fuck over someone else... ANY team who has traded their pick and probably can’t get it back should be trying to win as many games as possible, that’s not shitty or manipulative that’s literally a fundamental part of GMing a team. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2019 15:39:12 GMT -5
Why can't Miami be fired! And bk just push this through as acting till we get a new Miami gm
It's a small but almost necessary move so these other moves can through, and it def doesn't hurt Miami so...
And we, myself included can do a better job from now on of not posting trades till all the parts of prior trades are 100% accepted
I take full responsibility on my trades I just assumed Miami would be on in a few days like usual and that's on me but I'd hate to see all these trades reversed bc of jamario moon inactivity bc he obviously accepted in a pm for it to be posted!
And Kong leave me out of the bs please
My job as a gm is to guide my team to wins! It wouldn't matter if Steve or Brian had my pick I'd be trying to make it worse for them as well.
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Post by Ron Artest(1x Champ) on Jun 14, 2019 15:42:04 GMT -5
Can we just go back to Billy voting on trades? Honestly, this happens because the TC is more about getting power than doing what is right. You can hate on that DEN-DAL trade all you want but there was nothing franchise ruining about it and in some other moment that argument would have applied instead of the personal crusade that went on and I am not talking about Billy voting but the TC using the "franchise ruining argument". Maybe I am just mad but I feel like TC was more interested in messing with the DAL pick when they voted on those MIN trades than actually looking at what was going on. For one, they shouldn't have voted on those trades because they were not valid trades until this went through. GMs need to make sure that what they post is valid but so is the TC. Normally, I would do that as counsel but it is not my job. 2nd, there is nothing rejectable about those trades but some of the comments are funny because you make it look like MIN made some great trades when the fact is they are going on a suicide mission with an 8th seed sort of team with mostly old players with big contracts and no picks whatsoever. Is this a joke? For one, don’t say “The TC”, specify those individuals. Secondly, I didn’t vote on the DEN-DAL trade, nor have I given a response to this one. Thirdly, I'm pretty sure no one is rejecting trades involving Dallas for the simple goal of sabotaging their team/future. You’d be reaching for a why if you disagree... Finally, the goal is to win... Especially in Minny’s case, he literally doesn’t have his pick, tanking serves no purpose for him. |
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Steve Jobs
Oklahoma City Thunder
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Post by Steve Jobs on Jun 14, 2019 15:56:48 GMT -5
Why can't Miami be fired! And bk just push this through as acting till we get a new Miami gm It's a small but almost necessary move so these other moves can through, and it def doesn't hurt Miami so... And we, myself included can do a better job from now on of not posting trades till all the parts of prior trades are 100% accepted I take full responsibility on my trades I just assumed Miami would be on in a few days like usual and that's on me but I'd hate to see all these trades reversed bc of jamario moon inactivity bc he obviously accepted in a pm for it to be posted! And Kong leave me out of the bs please My job as a gm is to guide my team to wins! It wouldn't matter if Steve or Brian had my pick I'd be trying to make it worse for them as well. I get the resistance to this not being a valid trade, but bear in mind there is an inherent issue in forcing through a trade that involves Miami based on the intentions, but not the actions, of a GM that is getting fired. If you were a brand new GM, about to take over Miami, and realized that a trade you wouldn’t have made was passed without a Miami GM’s consent, you would rightfully be upset. Maybe most importantly, it’s a good lesson for all of us... and one I’d rather learn now than during offseason when things can get far crazier... to be reminded about the importance of taking the utmost care with trade procedure so that we don’t have to roll back 10+ trades leading up to or during the draft. This means the TC needs to be more diligent confirming the validity of trades (including which teams have what assets and what rules a trade must follow), as well as helping reinforce for any GMs that get a little carried away that you shouldn’t post a trade that involves assets that are currently involved in another trade that hasn’t passed - it 1) helps avoid incidents like this, and 2) helps you avoid having to back track on a posted trade when the pre-requisite trade gets rejected. At the very least, if you’re going to rush to post a trade that won’t be legal until a previous trade passes, make that the very first line of the trade post, in bold letters or something, so that the TC doesn’t need to do extensive research just to know they can’t vote on that trade until a different one passes. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2019 16:34:35 GMT -5
I'll be working on revised trade Tonite
Sorry to the tc for not waiting on proper acceptance on other trades!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2019 18:49:38 GMT -5
This trade is now dead
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billy
Miami Heat
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Post by billy on Jun 14, 2019 18:52:15 GMT -5
Kong is going mad conspiracy theory lol
You should see some of the stuff he PMs me about @championringa
Lol
Love you Kong
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Orlando Magic
LA Lakers