LAC-DAL-NOP

[Shaq O'Neal]

Mavericks send:

JaMychal Green $2,250,000 $2,750,000

Torrey Craig $1,018,690 $1,018,690

Ryan Broekhoff $1,018,690 $1,018,690

Al Jefferson $14,950,000 $15,925,000 (dead contract)

Garrett Temple $1,500,000 $1,500,000 (dead contract)

Luol Deng $9,000,000 (dead contract)

Michael Beasley $3,500,000 (dead contract)

Georgios Papagiannis $1,715,100 (dead contract)

Frank Mason $1,315,000 (dead contract)

Paul Zipser $1,010,990 (dead contract)

Total: $37,278,470



Mavericks receive:

Avery "Jesus" Bradley $12,000,000 $12,000,000 $12,000,000 $12,000,000 (PO)

Zach Randolph $5,500,000 $5,500,000 (dead contract)

Patrick Patterson $4,000,000 $4,000,000 (dead contract)

NOP 2022 1st
top 3 protected increasing conveyance
20k Billy bucks

Total: $21,500,000



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Mavs' cap space before: $20,809,681; cap space after: $36,588,151

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Pelicans send:

Avery Bradley $12,000,000 $12,000,000 $12,000,000 $12,000,000 (PO)

Monta Ellis $14,500,000 (dead contract)

NOP 2022 1st
top 3 protected increasing conveyance
ATL 2019 2nd

NOP 2022 2nd

20k Billy bucks

Total: $26,500,000



Pelicans receive:

JaMychal Green $2,250,000 $2,750,000

Ryan Broekhoff $1,018,690 $1,018,690

Torrey Craig $1,018,690 $1,018,690

Luol Deng $9,000,000 (dead contract)

Deron Williams $8,750,000 (dead contract)

Michael Beasley $3,500,000 (dead contract)

Mindaugas Kuzminskas $2,800,000 (dead contract)

Dorian Finney-Smith $2,000,000 (dead contract)

Georgios Papagiannis $1,715,100 (dead contract)

Timofey Mozgov $1,300,000 (dead contract)

Christian Wood $1,300,000 (dead contract)

Deron Williams $990,000 (dead contract)

Total: $35,794,460



Pelicans' cap space before: $10,211,769; cap space after: $917,309

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Clippers send:

Zach Randolph $5,500,000 $5,500,000 (dead contract)

Patrick Patterson $4,000,000 $4,000,000 (dead contract)

Deron Williams $8,750,000 (dead contract)

Mindaugas Kuzminskas $2,800,000 (dead contract)

Dorian Finney-Smith $2,000,000 (dead contract)

Timofey Mozgov $1,300,000 (dead contract)

Christian Wood $1,300,000 (dead contract)

Deron Williams $990,000 (dead contract)

Total: $26,640,000 (x 1,25 = $33,300,000)



Clippers receive:

Al Jefferson $14,950,000 $15,925,000 (dead contract)

Garrett Temple $1,500,000 $1,500,000 (dead contract)

Monta Ellis $14,500,000 (dead contract)

Frank Mason $1,315,000 (dead contract)

Paul Zipser $1,010,990 (dead contract)

ATL 2019 2nd

NOP 2022 2nd

Total: $33,275,990

I accept 
Yeezy and Ed Cooley to accept

Edit-TRADE PENDING VALID BUYOUT OF AVERY BRADLEY:



Bradley's total contract: $48,000,000 (Mavs require $36,000,000 cap space (+ $12,000,000 Bradley's starting salary = $48,000,000))

[Stuff The Magic Dragon]

Damn, Yeezy picking pockets here freeing cap space.

[Yeezy]

Accept, assets for cap space is how it goes

[Ed Cooley]

I accept, frees cap space and hopefully allows for a move so that I don’t need my 2022 pick. Protected just in case.

[Ed Cooley]

Oh also will be cutting Bluiett and Gabriel upon completion

[Stuff The Magic Dragon]

y'all can tag the TC now.

[Doc Rivers]

Brian Scalabrine
Justin Timberlake
Scott Pilgrim
Steve Jobs
Pete Maravich
Ron Artest(1x Champ)

Verdicts please.

[Pete Maravich]

Kong is definitely back with this one. Lol. It all seems to check out. Nice use/timing on the buyout.

Accept

[Yeezy]

I will add a conditional buyout of Avery Bradley to my accept.

[Ed Cooley]

Brian Scalabrine
Justin Timberlake
Scott Pilgrim
Steve Jobs
Ron Artest(1x Champ)

If you guys see this can you post a vote please. Only asking again because of the timing

[Steve Jobs]

The minimal and unnecessary nature of the salary relief (something like $7M in space, when the Pelicans should be able to put together full max cap space without that if they so desire) makes me wonder really heavily why the protection on that 1st isn’t more substantial.

1) Fair value is a lot closer to a lottery protected 1st than a top 3 protected.
2) Bradley’s stint with Memphis was on par with some of his decent years and it wouldn’t surprise me to see him bounce back... good AB at $12M + the means to sign a max player before officially re-signing the RFAs seems far more worthwhile to me than the meager cap space savings produced in this deal.

I think for me to accept, in the midst of a pivotal offseason for NOP’s chances to keep AD, I’d need to see that pick at least Top 8 protected.

[Brian Scalabrine]

Echo of steve here. I'm not gonna REJECT but I won't accept either--gonna leave it in the hands of others. Not the worst deal value wise but NOP needs to catch a break to keep AD, and this really ain't it

[Ron Artest(1x Champ)]

Man don’t leave it up to me to reject this, but I agree with Steve.

[Jackie Kong]

Is this trade really rejectable? I hardly doubt it but do what you have to do.

For what is worth we had like 4 different trade talks before this trade.

In one I was asked to add a lottery pick to send a 2 years dead contract (expiring next off-season). In another i got rejected Bradley for a massive 3 years dead contract (total was a bit less than Bradley's so it would have been easier for yeezy to buyout).
So, yes I would say Bradley's contract is pretty bad particularly when you look at its length.

About Pelicans' delicate situation I don't see it. I mean, how Pelicans are in any worse position than the Twolves that was allowed recently to do whatever if you combine those last 2 trades. Like literally, I hope KG doesn't get mad at me but I look at their situation right now and I see 10th place 4 years in a row with only a couple of picks coming from other playoff teams. I dare someone to tell me otherwise, lol.
One could even argue that pelicans only chance of keeping AD is if they get another star to pair with him which is only possibly if they get rid of Bradley. Is it a long shot? probably but what else can he do. Davis has his contract guaranteed this off-season and a PO the following one. So if he doesn't try something he probably will lose him next off-season to a team with a star already in place. It is what it is.

I honestly don't feel like I should be saying these things and I know these posts usually lead to the TC rejecting a trade as a defensive response but it makes no sense to me. I mean, I thought this TC was supposed to be a lighter version of its old self but instead in this particular trade at least it feels like the same old thing that made me quit like 3- times (?).

And I don't want to hear that one guy that will say that he will take Bradley for less based on other people opinions. Fact is, no one wanted him except for KG that ended up taking another bad contract instead in a nonsense trade (kg, please don't get mad at me. Trying to make a point, lol) and Ed has been looking to move Bradley with no success for months now.

And yes, obviously the price to get rid of salaries just before off-season is usually higher unless you are in a draft situation where you will take a bad contract in order to select someone you want with the next available pick. I am not saying this is a "higher" price which I don't think it is. Just saying that if it was it should be fine because that is the cost of moving big salaries at this time of the year and because that is usually how it works.

[Doc Rivers]

guys, the Pelicans get Ryan Broekhoff. They win this trade big time :P

[Jackie Kong]

LOL. Sorry to everyone. I needed to take that off my chest, lol.
About Twolves, I meant the Raptors deal combined with that with Clippers.They go like in absolute directions. And the picks comment is because MIN have all of their picks till 2022 gone (either gone gone or gone via swap option). I feel like i am throwing kg under the bus, lololol. At least Bucks are winning big time in real life! so maybe he doesn't get that mad at me.

[Brian Scalabrine]

Fuck it, I'll accept

For the record: I know that it isn't required anymore to post rationale in trade threads, but I think you're foolish not to give a paragraph. When I'm on the fence, I'm a lot more likely to just say no or not vote if there's no thorough explanation. I get that sometimes you want to have "secret plans" but... Your plans aren't secret. They just aren't. So if there's a trade where you're giving up something valuable--especially a situation like this where it's largely for a contract dump, it behooves you to justify it. It doesn't take that long. In the days of yore 80% of GMs would do this--now y'all just post one or two sentences and are surprised that the TC isn't convinced that you know what you're doing.

Not trying to be hard-assed or sassy here, just saying--it's worth your time to explain, and you don't lose out on any strategic advantage 95% of the time.

Glad you're back, Kong.

[Jackie Kong]

May 8, 2019 11:44:39 GMT -5 Brian Scalabrine said:

Fuck it, I'll accept

[Steve Jobs]

I whole heartedly disagree about NOP’s situation. AD is almost definitely leaving in real life the same offseason he’ll have a chance to leave here (point against AD staying), the Pelicans have very little left of their contending team and need to prove they’re dedicated to giving AD a great team. I don’t think AB is the difference, but I am also not delusional enough to think that 2022 pick won’t be wildly necessary if AD *does* choose to leave.

Most importantly, again, whatever your thoughts on AB, he barely changes the Pelicans cap space situation. 7M in relief should most certainly not be worth a potential top lottery pick when max cap space is attainable without this dump.

Trade AB for scraps all you want, open cap space however you want, I just think this is a team on a dangerous cliff with a star player that could leave, and an actual accept from me would take better protections.

[Scott Pilgrim]

Accept

Yeezy looking like D720 Hinkie again

[Shaq O'Neal]

Trade passed with 3 accepts

[Yeezy]

May 8, 2019 15:38:22 GMT -5 Scott Pilgrim said:

Accept

Yeezy looking like D720 Hinkie again

*cough* Kong

[Ed Cooley]

Stuff The Magic Dragon The 2022 1st has increasing conveyance

[Stuff The Magic Dragon]

processed

[Yeezy]

tagging billy for my billy bucks