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Post by billy on Feb 5, 2016 15:19:54 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2016 18:19:06 GMT -5
How is Cleveland so good?
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Post by Steve Jobs on Feb 5, 2016 19:55:17 GMT -5
How is Cleveland so good? Probably because both Giannis and Elfrid Payton have a perimeter defense attribute (questionable whether Payton has earned that one), both Giannis and Mozgov have Interior Defense attributes, and both of the other guys in the line up play solid defense and shoot threes well. If defense is treated as the most important attribute in the sim for winning games (it is) then Cleveland is naturally going to be very good. |
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Post by billy on Feb 5, 2016 20:03:45 GMT -5
How is Cleveland so good? Probably because both Giannis and Elfrid Payton have a perimeter defense attribute (questionable whether Payton has earned that one), both Giannis and Mozgov have Interior Defense attributes, and both of the other guys in the line up play solid defense and shoot threes well. If defense is treated as the most important attribute in the sim for winning games (it is) then Cleveland is naturally going to be very good. He's definitely earned that trait. Oladipo is the one who has vastly underperformed on defense, Payton is sooo good. |
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Post by Steve Jobs on Feb 5, 2016 20:20:37 GMT -5
Probably because both Giannis and Elfrid Payton have a perimeter defense attribute (questionable whether Payton has earned that one), both Giannis and Mozgov have Interior Defense attributes, and both of the other guys in the line up play solid defense and shoot threes well. If defense is treated as the most important attribute in the sim for winning games (it is) then Cleveland is naturally going to be very good. He's definitely earned that trait. Oladipo is the one who has vastly underperformed on defense, Payton is sooo good. I haven't found any statistical evidence to back that up (DBPM, DRPM, DWin Shares all say he's very average at best) and the eye test hasn't given me much else. I know it's not exactly fair to talk about Russell Westbrook's production while you're guarding him as a gauge of good defense, but Russ has put up some gaudy numbers on Payton this year and Eric Bledsoe always holds Russ to pretty efficient nights even though you won't give him that same credit. I'm just not nearly as sold on Payton as you are I suppose. |
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Post by Brown Cobb IV on Feb 5, 2016 20:27:03 GMT -5
i think payton is a good defender :)
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Post by billy on Feb 5, 2016 20:35:59 GMT -5
He's definitely earned that trait. Oladipo is the one who has vastly underperformed on defense, Payton is sooo good. I haven't found any statistical evidence to back that up (DBPM, DRPM, DWin Shares all say he's very average at best) and the eye test hasn't given me much else. I know it's not exactly fair to talk about Russell Westbrook's production while you're guarding him as a gauge of good defense, but Russ has put up some gaudy numbers on Payton this year and Eric Bledsoe always holds Russ to pretty efficient nights even though you won't give him that same credit. I'm just not nearly as sold on Payton as you are I suppose. What makes him so great is his ability to quickly call out switches and always find the open guy and ticky tacky between him and his man. He plays passing lanes really really well, he really gave Lin and Batum a hard time when they played charlotte. He is always getting deflections which is very very under rated. He is smart as a tack and is a coach on the court already at his incredibly young age often directing teammates on the defensive side of the ball. He is really good at reading plays too and who is gonna get open off different types of screens. |
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Post by Logan Hough on Feb 5, 2016 20:51:30 GMT -5
35 to 19 in the 4th, GD my team we're holding a players only meeting...at the strip club
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Post by billy on Feb 5, 2016 20:56:04 GMT -5
35 to 19 in the 4th, GD my team we're holding a players only meeting...at the strip club they beat you there... they left with 5 minutes left in regulation lol |
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Post by Tony Stark on Feb 5, 2016 21:59:25 GMT -5
KAT really wants to have Ben Simmons
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Feb 6, 2016 2:00:40 GMT -5
Nobody can stop my LAC!!
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