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Post by John Stockton on Feb 16, 2016 3:57:32 GMT -5
 Seattle SupersonicsGF 70 DeMar DeRozan $9,500,000 $9,500,000 SF 45 Glenn Robinson IIII $700,000 $770,000 FC 57 Larry Sanders $800,000 $800,000 $800,000Total: $11,000,000 for  Orlando MagicFC 70 Derrick Favors $12,000,000 $11,050,000 $12,000,000Total: $12,000,000 |
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Post by John Stockton on Feb 16, 2016 3:57:56 GMT -5
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Post by John Stockton on Feb 16, 2016 3:58:12 GMT -5
@docrivers101
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2016 11:22:38 GMT -5
I accept once more....hopefully people will begin to understand that I need DeRozan whether he's is with me for one season or two.
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Post by Steve Jobs on Feb 16, 2016 11:29:58 GMT -5
The feel good rotoworld entry about Larry Sanders plotting an NBA comeback doesn't make him worth the difference in value here... at least not until he actually comes back and doesn't completely suck... So I don't know why my position would have changed here.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2016 12:19:23 GMT -5
I am starting to think that this trade isn't going to work...Sorry John, but maybe we need to change things up?
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Post by Steve Jobs on Feb 16, 2016 13:43:44 GMT -5
I am starting to think that this trade isn't going to work...Sorry John, but maybe we need to change things up? I was surprised that you didn't use the fact that the majority of the TC was telling you that you could get more for Favors as trade leverage before the second iteration of the trade. When it got rejected twice and you were still happy to run it again for nothing* extra, I became legitimately unsure of your intentions with the trade. It'd be one thing if you didn't already have three legitimate wings (McCollum/Butler/MKG are guys most of the league would love to have), but the fact that you do makes this trade bad for you... But hey, maybe... most likely... we're just missing perspective. If you've got other moves lined up to swap some of your current wings for players that you'd prefer to have on your roster without losing value, go ahead and hammer out those deals so that we can get a sense for your vision for the team and then a trade like this might not look as weird as it does now. I don't mean to be preachy, just telling you what I'd need to see before giving you the benefit of the doubt in a trade like this. *Larry Sanders |
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Post by John Stockton on Feb 16, 2016 13:47:40 GMT -5
preachy*
*steve jobs
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Post by Keith Van Horn on Feb 18, 2016 15:40:29 GMT -5
This trade seems really shitty.
DeMar is probably a top 3 2 guard in the league right now
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Post by John Stockton on Feb 18, 2016 18:10:22 GMT -5
This trade seems really shitty. DeMar is probably a top 3 2 guard in the league right now lol so shitty for me? |
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Post by Brown Cobb IV on Feb 18, 2016 20:02:16 GMT -5
pass
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Post by Reggie Miller on Feb 18, 2016 20:27:31 GMT -5
ACCEPT
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Post by Keith Van Horn on Feb 19, 2016 17:09:44 GMT -5
This trade seems really shitty. DeMar is probably a top 3 2 guard in the league right now lol so shitty for me? Yes, I think Favors sucks. And DeMar is on a super great deal and you'll have his BRs. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2016 20:07:00 GMT -5
Yes, I think Favors sucks. And DeMar is on a super great deal and you'll have his BRs. Favors has Bird rights and a good rating (even though he's injured) and DeMar doesn't have bird rights..so it is good and bad for both of us lol |
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Post by John Stockton on Feb 23, 2016 15:16:00 GMT -5
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Post by Brown Cobb IV on Feb 23, 2016 15:22:30 GMT -5
lmaooooo took me a while to figure out what happened, john swept this baby under a rug. 1 week has gone by, so trade passed.
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Post by Steve Jobs on Feb 23, 2016 16:11:50 GMT -5
Ridiculous. This got rejected twice as virtually the exact same trade and it only got through because presumably Colin and Brian were tired of saying no. Favors is a player easily on par with DeRozan and losing Bird Rights is going to be huge against Doc when he really should have been able to pursue more for Favors. Here's Hoping Doc and his 4 wings can find a way to manufacture the same trade value he had previously as he reworks his team to more resemble the team he wants.
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Post by John Stockton on Feb 23, 2016 16:23:27 GMT -5
Ridiculous. This got rejected twice as virtually the exact same trade and it only got through because presumably Colin and Brian were tired of saying no. Favors is a player easily on par with DeRozan and losing Bird Rights is going to be huge against Doc when he really should have been able to pursue more for Favors. Here's Hoping Doc and his 4 wings can find a way to manufacture the same trade value he had previously as he reworks his team to more resemble the team he wants. Larry Sanders was the straw that broke the camel's back. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2016 18:33:51 GMT -5
Ridiculous. This got rejected twice as virtually the exact same trade and it only got through because presumably Colin and Brian were tired of saying no. Favors is a player easily on par with DeRozan and losing Bird Rights is going to be huge against Doc when he really should have been able to pursue more for Favors. Here's Hoping Doc and his 4 wings can find a way to manufacture the same trade value he had previously as he reworks his team to more resemble the team he wants. Larry Sanders was the straw that broke the camel's back. Lol, well, technically the trade has passed, soooo.... |
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Post by billy on Feb 23, 2016 19:22:46 GMT -5
lol well
Trade passed.
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Post by Doc Rivers on May 30, 2019 12:28:49 GMT -5
lol well.
this is hilarious, especially considering I won this trade in hindsight.
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Post by Steve Jobs on May 30, 2019 15:30:04 GMT -5
lol well. this is hilarious, especially considering I won this trade in hindsight. LOL. At the time you had Butler, McCollum, and MKG. You may have won in the long term value-wise, but certainly didn’t make a move that had any sense from a team building perspective. |
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Post by Doc Rivers on May 30, 2019 15:41:32 GMT -5
lol well. this is hilarious, especially considering I won this trade in hindsight. LOL. At the time you had Butler, McCollum, and MKG. You may have won in the long term value-wise, but certainly didn’t make a move that had any sense from a team building perspective. Fair point |
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Post by Jackie Kong on May 30, 2019 18:01:35 GMT -5
you had Butler, McCollum, and MKG. Think Stuff The Magic Dragon got Butler by trading McCollum actually. Could be wrong though. |
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Post by Doc Rivers on May 30, 2019 18:03:00 GMT -5
you had Butler, McCollum, and MKG. Think Stuff The Magic Dragon got Butler by trading McCollum actually. Could be wrong though. Butler is one of the most moved superstars in the league, went from Charlotte, Sacramento, GSW then to Orlando. |
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Post by Jackie Kong on May 30, 2019 18:05:42 GMT -5
Butler is one of the most moved superstars in the league, went from Charlotte, Sacramento, GSW then to Orlando. Actually, I think he just went from Charlotte to Orlando, lolololol. I have no idea who you are confusing him with.  |
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Post by Doc Rivers on May 30, 2019 18:06:33 GMT -5
Butler is one of the most moved superstars in the league, went from Charlotte, Sacramento, GSW then to Orlando. Actually, I think he just went from Charlotte to Orlando, lolololol. I have no idea who you are confusing him with. I remember trading him to Tony and the Warriors for the #1 pick when I was with Sacramento |
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Post by Steve Jobs on May 30, 2019 18:16:56 GMT -5
you had Butler, McCollum, and MKG. Think Stuff The Magic Dragon got Butler by trading McCollum actually. Could be wrong though. You may be right, I was basing it off of my comment from back then I am starting to think that this trade isn't going to work...Sorry John, but maybe we need to change things up? I was surprised that you didn't use the fact that the majority of the TC was telling you that you could get more for Favors as trade leverage before the second iteration of the trade. When it got rejected twice and you were still happy to run it again for nothing* extra, I became legitimately unsure of your intentions with the trade. It'd be one thing if you didn't already have three legitimate wings (McCollum/Butler/MKG are guys most of the league would love to have), but the fact that you do makes this trade bad for you... But hey, maybe... most likely... we're just missing perspective. If you've got other moves lined up to swap some of your current wings for players that you'd prefer to have on your roster without losing value, go ahead and hammer out those deals so that we can get a sense for your vision for the team and then a trade like this might not look as weird as it does now. I don't mean to be preachy, just telling you what I'd need to see before giving you the benefit of the doubt in a trade like this. *Larry Sanders Not sure why I’d have written that if it wasn’t true... maybe I’m misinterpreting the “Butler” to mean Jimmy? Either way, still wasn’t a fantastic move but only because Favors had a decent amount of value at the time otherwise I wouldn’t have rejected saying he should try to get more. lol |
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Post by Jackie Kong on May 30, 2019 21:19:32 GMT -5
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Post by billy on May 31, 2019 6:37:14 GMT -5
Getting Jimmy Butler was what both saved us from the okafor 1.1 and got us AD. |
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