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Post by Colin Loftin on May 23, 2016 13:10:34 GMT -5
Who you got?
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Post by Brown Cobb IV on May 23, 2016 15:12:52 GMT -5
seriosuly? 3 for ingram? simmons by a mile. at worst he will be blake griffin
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Post by billy on May 23, 2016 15:55:52 GMT -5
seriosuly? 3 for ingram? simmons by a mile. at worst he will be blake griffin If he gets an outside shot you're looking at Larry Bird. |
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Post by billy on May 23, 2016 15:57:28 GMT -5
seriosuly? 3 for ingram? simmons by a mile. at worst he will be blake griffin His floor is lower than BG, though. He could bust, he doesn't seem super passionate, even when on the court. |
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Post by Paul Pierce on May 23, 2016 18:31:55 GMT -5
i go ingram. Simmons has enormous potential, but his passion for the game is not there. i see this as a future great rivalry
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Post by Reggie Miller on May 23, 2016 20:32:31 GMT -5
Ingram.. cause I think Simmons have high percentage of being a bust.. He's good at everything except shooting and that will be his downfall if he does not improve
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Post by Ari Gold on May 23, 2016 21:14:01 GMT -5
Ben Simmons could easily turn into Blake griffin he could also be Lamar odom. I think he's closer to Odom.
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Post by Pete Maravich on May 23, 2016 21:48:15 GMT -5
I see the Lamar Odom thing over and over as his floor. I remember Odom differently than most people. He had demons but he had a good career. I think if he was in re-drafts he would average around #3.
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Post by Ari Gold on May 23, 2016 22:02:58 GMT -5
Odom was a beast in college and kept getting called the next Magic Johnson. Odoms biggest issues coming out of college was his drug problem
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 22:15:09 GMT -5
I see the Lamar Odom thing over and over as his floor. I remember Odom differently than most people. He had demons but he had a good career. I think if he was in re-drafts he would average around #3. So, if Stark picks Ingram you will trade 2nd? |
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Post by Pete Maravich on May 23, 2016 22:18:10 GMT -5
I see the Lamar Odom thing over and over as his floor. I remember Odom differently than most people. He had demons but he had a good career. I think if he was in re-drafts he would average around #3. So, if Stark picks Ingram you will trade 2nd? I will trade the 2nd right now for the right offer. |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 22:19:59 GMT -5
But you will lower your expectations if Ingram is picked 1st.
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Post by Pete Maravich on May 23, 2016 22:22:33 GMT -5
Nope minimal changes based on who gsw picks.
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Post by Theodore Duncan on May 24, 2016 8:13:50 GMT -5
I have feeling that Simmons ends up like Kwame Brown. Not a bad NBA player, but also never lives up the hype of number 1 pick. Instead of him being destroyed by Jordan's critique, it will be done by social media this time. Pressure to succeed will be huge.
Like Kwame, Simmons has dominated lesser athletic opponents in HS and college. Is excellent in certain areas, but also has very concerning weaknesses (who needs shooting in basketball anyways? ::) ). In NBA he just won't be dominating physically and smart defenses will just drop off him and give him the outside shot, go under every screen, etc..
Is he worth top 2 pick and can he became a superstar? For sure, if he works on his outside shot and post-game. Does he have the attitude and work ethic to do it after getting the nice contract for being number one pick and 200million worth of shoe/other deals, and when media is shitting on him after every bad shooting night... meh, not so sure about that.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2016 20:07:59 GMT -5
I'm going for Ingram.
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Post by Allan Houston on May 24, 2016 23:18:32 GMT -5
You guys are overthinking this.
I agree 100% that there are flaws to Simmons' game and character that spell out a decent amount of bust potential. But I think you're over-analyzing him, and just slotting in the closest alternative as his replacement in Ingram, without placing the same scrutiny on Ingram. Ingram has just as much and probably more bust potential than Simmons, with a lower ceiling.
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Post by Ari Gold on May 26, 2016 15:31:11 GMT -5
Ingram is probably closer to Derrick Williams than Kevin Durant. That's not to say that I think he'll be as bad a pick as Williams. I just don't see the Durant comparison at all other than he's long and he shoots 3s.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2016 19:20:07 GMT -5
Wonder who has more bust potential. Simmons or Bender?, Sounds to me like Bender is an all-around potential bust. Like he looks like the typical late 1st round pick only that he is projected 4th. x_x
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Post by Brown Cobb IV on May 26, 2016 19:28:10 GMT -5
Wonder who has more bust potential. Simmons or Bender?, Sounds to me like Bender is an all-around potential bust. Like he looks like the typical late 1st round pick only that he is projected 4th. x_x agreed bender is a total bust, there are much better players to get then him in the draft |
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Post by billy on May 26, 2016 19:44:41 GMT -5
Wonder who has more bust potential. Simmons or Bender?, Sounds to me like Bender is an all-around potential bust. Like he looks like the typical late 1st round pick only that he is projected 4th. x_x Bender might be the worst player in the draft. |
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Post by Brown Cobb IV on May 26, 2016 19:46:28 GMT -5
Wonder who has more bust potential. Simmons or Bender?, Sounds to me like Bender is an all-around potential bust. Like he looks like the typical late 1st round pick only that he is projected 4th. x_x Bender might be the worst player in the draft. worst projection in the draft for, he is just riding kristaps hypetrain's coat tails. |
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Post by billy on May 26, 2016 20:22:17 GMT -5
Bender might be the worst player in the draft. worst projection in the draft for, he is just riding kristaps hypetrain's coat tails. Yeah I mean the guy only got like 6 minute per game in ISRAEL and they think he can be q star in the NBA? Top kek |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2016 21:05:00 GMT -5
Porzingis got actual playing time before jumping to the NBA and his numbers were decent enough for a prospect.
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Post by Brown Cobb IV on May 26, 2016 21:24:29 GMT -5
Porzingis got actual playing time before jumping to the NBA and his numbers were decent enough for a prospect. exactly bender is all hype with nothing to show for, trash |
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Post by John Stockton on May 26, 2016 22:15:05 GMT -5
bender should be #1 imo.
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Post by Ari Gold on May 27, 2016 10:02:26 GMT -5
If Porzingis hadn't had the season he had last year, Bender would be a mid/late 1st rounder.
I think he's got the biggest Bust potential.
I think Buddy Hield is the guy 3-4 years we'll look back and LOL at all the teams that passed on him because he's too old (see CJ McCollum, Steph Curry, Lillard, etc)
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Post by Paul Pierce on May 27, 2016 22:10:47 GMT -5
Kris Dunn is in my opinion gonna have the best career out of any of them. He's all around and mature. The only thing wrong is that he's a little older. Him and ingram are gonna be beasts. Heild does look very solid and could be very good in the future
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Post by Milt Newton on May 27, 2016 22:16:00 GMT -5
I would have drafted Kris Dunn if it wasn't for my placement (11th)
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Post by Milt Newton on May 27, 2016 22:16:52 GMT -5
And yes, I prefer Brandon Ingram over Ben Simmons.
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