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Post by John Stockton on Jul 21, 2016 10:49:46 GMT -5
Seattle Supersonics GF 63 Tony Allen $5,000,000 2017 BOS 2nd 2018 BOS 2nd
for Detroit PistonsC 63 Mason Plumlee $2,328,530 $3,371,711
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Post by John Stockton on Jul 21, 2016 12:03:59 GMT -5
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Post by Frank Reynolds on Jul 21, 2016 20:17:41 GMT -5
I accept
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Post by Gregg Popovich on Jul 21, 2016 20:23:58 GMT -5
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Post by Brown Cobb IV on Jul 22, 2016 13:08:20 GMT -5
reject
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Post by Colin Loftin on Jul 22, 2016 13:53:21 GMT -5
Accept
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Post by Justin Timberlake on Jul 22, 2016 16:25:05 GMT -5
I'll accept
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Steve Jobs
Oklahoma City Thunder
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Post by Steve Jobs on Jul 22, 2016 17:34:18 GMT -5
Reject.
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Post by John Stockton on Jul 22, 2016 17:47:13 GMT -5
are you that high on plumlee or are you just high?
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billy
Miami Heat
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Post by billy on Jul 22, 2016 18:00:07 GMT -5
are you that high on plumlee or are you just high? He's as high as Plumlee A/TO ratio against the Warriors
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Steve Jobs
Oklahoma City Thunder
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Post by Steve Jobs on Jul 22, 2016 18:17:33 GMT -5
are you that high on plumlee or are you just high? This isn't a good trade and it'd take infinity seconds to ever change my mind about a bad trade.
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Post by John Stockton on Jul 22, 2016 18:35:44 GMT -5
are you that high on plumlee or are you just high? This isn't a good trade and it'd take infinity seconds to ever change my mind about a bad trade. then please explain to me how this is acceptable and my trade isn't. unless you're just biased against my team, afraid to make a good team in the same conference better. honestly, id prefer if that was your reasoning cuz then I'd be able to rationalize where you are coming from.
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Steve Jobs
Oklahoma City Thunder
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Post by Steve Jobs on Jul 22, 2016 18:59:23 GMT -5
Here's my response to the second time this trade came up when I realized that the original trade should have been rejectable and I was obviously just feeling more generous when I accepted it: Anybody here watch Plumlee in the playoffs? Come on guys. What other center do you see dropping double digit assists in a playoff game? Allen got traded for Malachi because Malachi hasn't played a game yet. A first round pick that had achieved any level of success is worth more than any future first because that future first isn't a guarantee to be that good. I feel like that's pretty obvious. Tony Allen might be worth a literal first round pick, but he is old and doesn't have a ton of years left in the league. Mason Plumlee is making a name for himself and anybody trading him for an over the hill guard that has only ever been great at defense is making a mistake. i was definitely feeling more generous last time, but the original trade was rejectable too. Reject. And to be quite honest, I don't need a better explanation than I changed my mind. None of these trades should be accepted. Tony Allen isn't worth Mason Plumlee. That guy put on a show in the playoffs and he's not gonna disappear. Detroit needs to hold on to him and can't afford to lose trades at all right now. I gave Doc and post-Doc Orlando the same treatment. Small losses that aren't franchise ruining can still be part of incrementally leading your franchise to ruin and teams that prove consistently capable of making those incrementally-franchise-ruining trades need the TC to be extra cautious.
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Post by John Stockton on Jul 22, 2016 19:01:56 GMT -5
And to be quite honest, I don't need a better explanation than I changed my mind. but thats not your style lol
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billy
Miami Heat
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Post by billy on Jul 22, 2016 20:42:57 GMT -5
It's been 24 hours since the trade has been accepted and it stands tied at 2-2.
Every GM in the league has the chance to cast their vote on this trade in the next 24 hours. If after 24 hours the vote is still tied, the trade will pass.
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Post by Gregg Popovich on Jul 22, 2016 21:11:35 GMT -5
I vote nay.
Mason Plumlee is worth more than allen and two 2nd rounders imo
going along what steve jobs said - no other center can have plenty of pts, rebs, and assists.
im the type to vote according to people's potentials, which explains my roster.
(before you make an argument about me trading away clarkson and lillard, i'd like to say i was drunk af...)
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Paul Pierce
Chicago Bulls
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Post by Paul Pierce on Jul 22, 2016 21:16:01 GMT -5
Im gonna vote accept. I do think that Plumlee is worth more, but it is not bad enough to warrant a reject. Frank Reynalds needs a shooting guard on his team and Tony Allen is still solid. Nice move JS
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Post by Baron Davis on Jul 22, 2016 21:28:56 GMT -5
This is obviously had. Tony Allen is not good. Reject.
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Post by John Stockton on Jul 22, 2016 22:04:11 GMT -5
I vote nay. Mason Plumlee is worth more than allen and two 2nd rounders imo going along what steve jobs said - no other center can have plenty of pts, rebs, and assists. im the type to vote according to people's potentials, which explains my roster. (before you make an argument about me trading away clarkson and lillard, i'd like to say i was drunk af...) how do we know you're not drunk right now!?!?!
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Post by Gregg Popovich on Jul 22, 2016 22:13:41 GMT -5
I vote nay. Mason Plumlee is worth more than allen and two 2nd rounders imo going along what steve jobs said - no other center can have plenty of pts, rebs, and assists. im the type to vote according to people's potentials, which explains my roster. (before you make an argument about me trading away clarkson and lillard, i'd like to say i was drunk af...) how do we know you're not drunk right now!?!?! haha joke all you want.
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Post by DJ Jazzy Jeff on Jul 22, 2016 22:13:54 GMT -5
reject. Allen doesnt even know how to dribble
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Allan Houston
New York Knicks
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Post by Allan Houston on Jul 23, 2016 1:54:28 GMT -5
I accept. Do I think it's a bad trade? Sure. Do I think it ruins a franchise to the point where it'll be hard to convince a new GM to take it over? No.
I think the role of the TC should be pretty minimal. But I realize that's not how the league treats it, hence why I've declined joining the TC.
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Theodore Duncan
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Post by Theodore Duncan on Jul 23, 2016 1:56:07 GMT -5
Reject.. My reasoning is pretty much same as what Steve Jobs said.
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Post by Stephen A. Smith on Jul 23, 2016 4:38:54 GMT -5
I accept. Do I think it's a bad trade? Sure. Do I think it ruins a franchise to the point where it'll be hard to convince a new GM to take it over? No. I think the role of the TC should be pretty minimal. But I realize that's not how the league treats it, hence why I've declined joining the TC. I accept. I take the same reasoning here. Trade isn't ruining a team so bad that it's worth a reject
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Post by Dirk Nowitzki on Jul 23, 2016 6:01:34 GMT -5
Plumlee can obviously be shopped for more but the Pistons is a grown ass man im sure he atleast have a plan so I accept
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billy
Miami Heat
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Post by billy on Jul 23, 2016 8:48:50 GMT -5
Plumlee can obviously be shopped for more but the Pistons is a grown ass man im sure he atleast have a plan so I accept Ironically, he isn't a grown ass man
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Post by Gregg Popovich on Jul 23, 2016 9:29:03 GMT -5
6-6
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Steve Jobs
Oklahoma City Thunder
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Post by Steve Jobs on Jul 23, 2016 9:39:23 GMT -5
Plumlee can obviously be shopped for more but the Pistons is a grown ass man im sure he atleast have a plan so I accept Ironically, he isn't a grown ass man the plan part may be questionable as well.
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Post by Gregg Popovich on Jul 23, 2016 13:24:44 GMT -5
seems like this will pass as it is 6-6
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Post by Brown Cobb IV on Jul 23, 2016 13:35:20 GMT -5
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