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Post by billy on Jan 6, 2017 9:00:34 GMT -5
New Orleans PelicansSF 62 Jabari Parker $5,374,320 $6,782,392 $7,375,851 LAL 2019 2nd for Golden State WarriorsFC 60 Myles Turner $2,053,200 $2,141,600 $2,841,903 $3,890,5652018 1st Round Pick Swap
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Post by Gregg Popovich on Jan 6, 2017 9:05:04 GMT -5
Accept. I'll never really find a spot for Turner,
KAT and Rudy are the main bigs of my team and Roy Hibbert will be their backup.
Iman Shumpert is in need of a backup.
2018 and 2019 are a year and two away.
There was one trade other than this that appealed to me but Jabari was hard to not take back in.
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Post by billy on Jan 6, 2017 9:07:24 GMT -5
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Post by Steve Jobs on Jan 6, 2017 9:10:59 GMT -5
Myles will kick Jabari's ass up and down the court for the entire rest of their career, and it's insane that the Pelicans are getting the better pick selection on top of the more valuable player.
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Post by billy on Jan 6, 2017 9:13:06 GMT -5
Myles will kick Jabari's ass up and down the court for the entire rest of their career, and it's insane that the Pelicans are getting the better pick selection on top of the more valuable player. Oh come on Steve, everyone knows you hate Jabari with a passion. It's okay for people to find high value in prospects you don't like. Especially when professional scouts and the sports media also loves him as a prospect as well. Jabari is literally ballin' out, there's a stock watch thread for him up right now. I anticipate a 65+ rating at least.
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Post by Theodore Duncan on Jan 6, 2017 9:15:19 GMT -5
I really like both of them, but agree with Steve that Myles is a better prospect. He can be also stockwatched to 65 range already and is much younger.
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Post by billy on Jan 6, 2017 9:16:51 GMT -5
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Post by Steve Jobs on Jan 6, 2017 9:17:29 GMT -5
Myles will kick Jabari's ass up and down the court for the entire rest of their career, and it's insane that the Pelicans are getting the better pick selection on top of the more valuable player. Oh come on Steve, everyone knows you hate Jabari with a passion. It's okay for people to find high value in prospects you don't like. Especially when professional scouts and the sports media also loves him as a prospect as well. Jabari is literally ballin' out, there's a stock watch thread for him up right now. I anticipate a 65+ rating at least. I didn't even vote, I'm just letting my opinion on the trade be known. Turner is a phenomenal two way center prospect with a 3 pt shot and Jabari is a decent slasher with no shot and no defense. It's no comparison. Turner could be a top 5 most valuable BBGM player and Jabari's ceiling is probably nowhere near that high.
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Post by Donkey Kong on Jan 6, 2017 9:19:02 GMT -5
Those 2 2018 1sts are not going to be that good anyway, LOL. And Warriors already have enough big men committed long term.
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Post by billy on Jan 6, 2017 9:19:33 GMT -5
Oh come on Steve, everyone knows you hate Jabari with a passion. It's okay for people to find high value in prospects you don't like. Especially when professional scouts and the sports media also loves him as a prospect as well. Jabari is literally ballin' out, there's a stock watch thread for him up right now. I anticipate a 65+ rating at least. I didn't even vote, I'm just letting my opinion on the trade be known. Turner is a phenomenal two way center prospect with a 3 pt shot and Jabari is a decent slasher with no shot and no defense. It's no comparison. Turner could be a top 5 most valuable BBGM player and Jabari's ceiling is probably nowhere near that high. Jabari has no shot? He's shooting 52.5% from 2 and 39% from 3
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Post by Dave Wohl on Jan 6, 2017 9:41:34 GMT -5
Jabari has alot of potential and they could use him more than Myles since GSW has alot of talented bigs, Jabari is already proving himself to be a great player and so is Myles but I'll keep my opinions to myself on who is better so that nobody hates me! Even if Jabari doesnt equal Myles, (which I think he does) The Warriors still get a 2nd and Myles goes to a team where he'll get more minutes.
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Post by Pete Maravich on Jan 6, 2017 9:45:48 GMT -5
I agree that Turner is the better player & value. Jabari is having a good year but I think Turner is having an even better year thus far with lower salary & extra year of control. This would have been about even IMO in the preseason. Think Billy is getting the better of this but it passes my line of acceptability.
I accept
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Post by Colin Loftin on Jan 6, 2017 11:20:11 GMT -5
I like Jabari more than most it seems, and with these types of trades I'd prefer to be more lenient anyways.
I'll accept.
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Post by Justin Timberlake on Jan 6, 2017 15:16:15 GMT -5
I like to think of Jabari as in his 2nd season, just like Turner. Both are doing great this season. The pick swap is probably unnecessary but not rejectable imo.
Hopefully Jabari can fix that backlog of centers for you Kwame!
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Post by John Stockton on Jan 7, 2017 12:56:51 GMT -5
Personally I'd rather have Myles Turner but idk if that pick swap adds much given that I expect both these teams to be in the top half of the league in the coming season. I think GSW couldve gotten more value wise but seeing as how he is using this trade to even out his roster, I'll accept.
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Post by Donkey Kong on Jan 26, 2017 10:38:31 GMT -5
Could that 2018 1st Round Pick Swap option be invalid? Pelicans has no 2018 1st.
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Post by Gregg Popovich on Jan 26, 2017 10:51:58 GMT -5
Gasp
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Post by Steve Jobs on Jan 26, 2017 11:18:36 GMT -5
Oops
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Post by Donkey Kong on Jan 26, 2017 11:24:56 GMT -5
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Post by Steve Jobs on Jan 26, 2017 11:35:59 GMT -5
Good thing I didn't vote so that I can non-hypocritically reprimand my TC colleagues for not paying enough attention to catch this before voting. lol billy, I imagine we roll this one back? At least long enough to let you two agree to new terms and post a new thread?
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Post by Donkey Kong on Jan 26, 2017 11:40:42 GMT -5
Steve, did you read the comments from the link I posted?, LOL.
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Post by Steve Jobs on Jan 26, 2017 11:55:48 GMT -5
Steve, did you read the comments from the link I posted?, LOL. yup
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Post by Gregg Popovich on Jan 26, 2017 12:01:00 GMT -5
Gotta go waaaaaaay back
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Post by Donkey Kong on Jan 26, 2017 12:17:48 GMT -5
Steve, did you read the comments from the link I posted?, LOL. yup I meant LOL at the comments. Not you. Billy had some strong feelings for Shabazz. x_x
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Post by Steve Jobs on Jan 26, 2017 12:37:34 GMT -5
I meant LOL at the comments. Not you. Billy had some strong feelings for Shabazz. x_x Haha, I know, I was just driving when I responded and couldn't write a more detailed comment. lol
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Post by billy on Jan 26, 2017 12:38:08 GMT -5
Do you have your 2019 1st Kareem ?
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Post by Donkey Kong on Jan 26, 2017 12:40:04 GMT -5
Kareem? (rofl)
Wouldn't swapping the 2019 1st with the 2018 1st gone be against the consecutive years rule though?
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Post by billy on Jan 26, 2017 12:41:45 GMT -5
Kareem? (rofl) Wouldn't swapping the 2019 1st with the 2018 1st gone be against the consecutive years rule though? No
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Post by Steve Jobs on Jan 26, 2017 12:43:56 GMT -5
Kareem? (rofl) Wouldn't swapping the 2019 1st with the 2018 1st gone be against the consecutive years rule though? Nah. Unless we've drastically changed a rule that I just didn't know about, pick swaps don't count there since you're getting a pick that year no matter what.
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Post by Gregg Popovich on Jan 26, 2017 13:26:21 GMT -5
Would like to reconsider and speak with other GMs to see if there are better options than jabari
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