Jackie Kong
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Post by Jackie Kong on Apr 17, 2020 16:58:07 GMT -5
And some extra twists can be added too such as special events press conference.
I am thinking post Playoffs Series conferences would be really cool. Those real life conferences could be interesting sometimes when they discussed their last opponent and if they won what they expect from their rivals. And if they lose (assuming they want to participate) what are their plans for the future and if they intend to give it another try next season and that sort of things.
Doing Press Conferences open up lots of interesting possibilities.
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Post by Jackie Kong on Jul 9, 2020 20:30:06 GMT -5
I want to propose a new state for players during off-season.
So, there are cap holds for players with BRs and there are tiers for FAs. And then, there are players that would require you to waive certain cap holds in order for you to have enough cap space to bid. And sometimes that mixes up with tiers and the order in which players sign.
So in order to fix that scenario if people agree that there is something that needs to be fixed I propose the following:
Conditional Cap Holds.
I will explain it with an example.
Say you want to offer for a player (player A) that costs $20M as starting salary but you only have $12M in cap space and $20M in cap holds for another player (player B).
Then, if you renounce the cap hold for player B you would have $32M in cap space which is enough to offer for player A.
But what if player B would have been willing to re-sign for a starting salary of $5M. Then, if player B decided first the $20M cap hold would have been replaced with a $5M starting salary leaving $27M in cap space (12 + 20 gone cap hold - 5 starting salary)
So my solution is that if you want to offer for player A you can do it as if you had the cap space and if you get him the cap hold on player B gets replaced with a conditional cap hold as in a cap hold that can only be replaced with a starting salary of what is left in cap space.
In this case, if you sign player A for $20M your cap space goes from $12M to -$8M which is not valid but then, you take the required $8M from the $20M cap hold on player B.
So you go from:
$12M cap space $20M cap hold in player B
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$20 starting salary on player A $12M conditional cap hold on player B (as in a cap hold that can only be replaced with a contract that has a starting salary of $12M or less).
Sorry if my explanation is a bit confusing but in practice it would be a lot easier to use than to explain, lololol.
One thing to note is that cap holds are usually more useful when you are over the cap because they allow to re-sign a player even without cap space. In my scenario, you would have cap space making the cap hold less useful. But still, cap holds mean BRs for the upcoming contract if you re-sign players and the BRs attached to the cap hold also allow you to offer better terms (5 years deal) to a player.
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Post by billy on Jul 10, 2020 18:24:53 GMT -5
It seems like a cool idea but seems like it's a deviation from reality. I see the benefits to teams that have big cap holds -- but is there a benefit to the league overall?
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Post by Jackie Kong on Jul 10, 2020 19:15:14 GMT -5
It seems like a cool idea but seems like it's a deviation from reality. I see the benefits to teams that have big cap holds -- but is there a benefit to the league overall? It is but so are tiers. I mean, conditional cap holds would basically help to reduce the negative effects of tiers or at least that's my reasoning for the idea.
Edit: Thinking about it though you do sort of have conditional conditional cap holds in real life. I mean it is not actually a thing but sometimes a players waits to officially sign sometimes so cap hold players can sign first for longer contracts. And they do that because it is in their best interest in terms of winning for the team to maximize the chances of re-signing players.
Some other times you also see that cap hold players sign first so the team can figure what to do with the exact cap space that they have left.
In here, when a player signs he does it right away which is understandable or else you would have absolute chaos. But then, you have to decline cap holds right away.
And then, there are also tiers. So, in a way maybe conditional tiers could make things more realistic as in simulating the dynamic that I am describing and that we don't have compared to real life.
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Oct 6, 2020 1:03:05 GMT -5
Suggestion that maybe only I like:
D720 draft before the NBA draft.
Why?
I feel that the way that real NBA placement effects D720 draft order is disappointing. That is, I wish I saw more GMs making god-honest choices about how successful prospects will be, RATHER than just copying NBA consensus after the fact. I think it would be more interesting and challenging for GMs to be faced with the same choices as IRL GMs are.
We don't see many surprises at the top, largely because we're FOLLOWING the NBA. In the NBA, however, there are almost always surprises at the top and in the lottery. Prospects fall and get reached on in a legitimate way in the real draft, and I wish that was something that happened in our league as well. I suspect that in a lot of cases, if someone is drafting late lottery or past that, people just look at the draft results, and choose whoever they like best that is near their real life draft position.
In my opinion, it would make this league way more interesting if draft selections were based on D720 GMs evaluation of the draft, rather than a reconstructive mishmash of the NBA draft
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Post by Stuff The Magic Dragon on Oct 6, 2020 3:17:39 GMT -5
Suggestion that maybe only I like: D720 draft before the NBA draft. Why? I feel that the way that real NBA placement effects D720 draft order is disappointing. That is, I wish I saw more GMs making god-honest choices about how successful prospects will be, RATHER than just copying NBA consensus after the fact. I think it would be more interesting and challenging for GMs to be faced with the same choices as IRL GMs are. We don't see many surprises at the top, largely because we're FOLLOWING the NBA. In the NBA, however, there are almost always surprises at the top and in the lottery. Prospects fall and get reached on in a legitimate way in the real draft, and I wish that was something that happened in our league as well. I suspect that in a lot of cases, if someone is drafting late lottery or past that, people just look at the draft results, and choose whoever they like best that is near their real life draft position. In my opinion, it would make this league way more interesting if draft selections were based on D720 GMs evaluation of the draft, rather than a reconstructive mishmash of the NBA draft you telling me we should do our own research
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Post by Steve Jobs on Oct 6, 2020 5:14:30 GMT -5
As much as this WOULD make things more interesting, I don’t think I could personally get behind it because the draft itself is, by necessity, part of our research.
We don’t get extra scouts to send overseas, we don’t get any in-person interviews, we don’t get to bring players in to our facilities to run them through specific drills and scrimmages and see how they might interact with our current roster, etc., etc.
Without the draft itself, mock drafts and other available internet resources would dominate our draft boards even more than they currently do. It’s not perfect, but seeing which trusted organizations take a player and which non-trusted organizations take a player is typically my last line of defense against drafting a major bust.
And all that fails to mention that the teams these players actually go to can and should matter to us for where we pick them + almost universally has a dramatic effect on their potential. Very rarely is a player good enough to become a star anywhere that they could get drafted.
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Post by billy on Oct 6, 2020 10:36:05 GMT -5
I like both ideas. There are benefits and downsides to both.
Fwiw the draft can happen basically whenever the people who own the picks want. The timer just doesn't start until after the NBA draft has concluded.
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Post by David Robinson on Dec 15, 2020 14:22:57 GMT -5
I usually stay clear of suggestions/opining on trades. This is mostly because most people in this league fundamentally know more than me, and I do not like sounding dumb. Unless it's not allowing a second rebuild of Beal, because that was a travesty.
That being said, I have a suggestion -- Player Option "Recount"
Under this "Recount" rule, the following apples: - You can only use it once every 4 years (similar to buyout rules) - A manager can challenge a player's offseason opt-in/opt-out decision. (e.g. Wilson Chandler opting-in to Spurs) - Once the challenge is initiated, the challenger will make his case why the decision should be changed. (e.g. Wilson Chandler opted out of the entire NBA, why did he opt-in to d720?) - The Committee then presents its rationale behind its decision. (e.g. He opts-in b/c you made a terrible argument David Robinson). - Then the league votes if the Committee erred. (Verdict - Chandler was a bad call; good call league). Obviously this is just a first draft of the rule, and it needs lots of tweaking. Nonetheless, I just thought I'd throw out the idea so I am not inundated with reading arguments between Steve and the world about why he is right and everyone else is wrong.
Happy for any feedback, even if it is Billy answering with a one word "no" response.
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Post by billy on Dec 15, 2020 16:10:28 GMT -5
I usually stay clear of suggestions/opining on trades. This is mostly because most people in this league fundamentally know more than me, and I do not like sounding dumb. Unless it's not allowing a second rebuild of Beal, because that was a travesty. That being said, I have a suggestion -- Player Option "Recount" Under this "Recount" rule, the following apples: - You can only use it once every 4 years (similar to buyout rules) - A manager can challenge a player's offseason opt-in/opt-out decision. (e.g. Wilson Chandler opting-in to Spurs) - Once the challenge is initiated, the challenger will make his case why the decision should be changed. (e.g. Wilson Chandler opted out of the entire NBA, why did he opt-in to d720?) - The Committee then presents its rationale behind its decision. (e.g. He opts-in b/c you made a terrible argument David Robinson). - Then the league votes if the Committee erred. (Verdict - Chandler was a bad call; good call league). Obviously this is just a first draft of the rule, and it needs lots of tweaking. Nonetheless, I just thought I'd throw out the idea so I am not inundated with reading arguments between Steve and the world about why he is right and everyone else is wrong. Happy for any feedback, even if it is Billy answering with a one word "no" response. no
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Post by billy on Dec 15, 2020 16:11:18 GMT -5
I usually stay clear of suggestions/opining on trades. This is mostly because most people in this league fundamentally know more than me, and I do not like sounding dumb. Unless it's not allowing a second rebuild of Beal, because that was a travesty. That being said, I have a suggestion -- Player Option "Recount" Under this "Recount" rule, the following apples: - You can only use it once every 4 years (similar to buyout rules) - A manager can challenge a player's offseason opt-in/opt-out decision. (e.g. Wilson Chandler opting-in to Spurs) - Once the challenge is initiated, the challenger will make his case why the decision should be changed. (e.g. Wilson Chandler opted out of the entire NBA, why did he opt-in to d720?) - The Committee then presents its rationale behind its decision. (e.g. He opts-in b/c you made a terrible argument David Robinson). - Then the league votes if the Committee erred. (Verdict - Chandler was a bad call; good call league). Obviously this is just a first draft of the rule, and it needs lots of tweaking. Nonetheless, I just thought I'd throw out the idea so I am not inundated with reading arguments between Steve and the world about why he is right and everyone else is wrong. Happy for any feedback, even if it is Billy answering with a one word "no" response. For real though, Wilson Chandler didn't "opt out" of the NBA, he couldn't get a deal so he went to play somewhere else. If he had the chance to play in the NBA and make millions of dollars, by all intents and purposes he would probably have taken it. That's how the logic goes.
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Post by Shaq O'Neal on Dec 16, 2020 5:32:43 GMT -5
I usually stay clear of suggestions/opining on trades. This is mostly because most people in this league fundamentally know more than me, and I do not like sounding dumb. Unless it's not allowing a second rebuild of Beal, because that was a travesty. That being said, I have a suggestion -- Player Option "Recount" Under this "Recount" rule, the following apples: - You can only use it once every 4 years (similar to buyout rules) - A manager can challenge a player's offseason opt-in/opt-out decision. (e.g. Wilson Chandler opting-in to Spurs) - Once the challenge is initiated, the challenger will make his case why the decision should be changed. (e.g. Wilson Chandler opted out of the entire NBA, why did he opt-in to d720?) - The Committee then presents its rationale behind its decision. (e.g. He opts-in b/c you made a terrible argument David Robinson). - Then the league votes if the Committee erred. (Verdict - Chandler was a bad call; good call league). Obviously this is just a first draft of the rule, and it needs lots of tweaking. Nonetheless, I just thought I'd throw out the idea so I am not inundated with reading arguments between Steve and the world about why he is right and everyone else is wrong. Happy for any feedback, even if it is Billy answering with a one word "no" response. Why not make your argument in the PO pitch itself
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Post by Shaq O'Neal on Jul 13, 2021 0:53:25 GMT -5
billy this year could we have the lottery posted all at once or maybe 2-3 picks a day instead of 1 pick per day since the actual draft is only 16 days away currently.This would give the GMs more time to scout players for their pick and to set up draft day trades
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Jul 13, 2021 2:07:17 GMT -5
billy this year could we have the lottery posted all at once or maybe 2-3 picks a day instead of 1 pick per day since the actual draft is only 16 days away currently.This would give the GMs more time to scout players for their pick and to set up draft day trades I concur
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Post by billy on Jul 13, 2021 21:19:10 GMT -5
The response I have to this is the start time of our draft is not really tied to the NBA draft. We will start it when the playoffs are over.
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