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Post by Donald Trump on Jul 17, 2015 17:51:16 GMT -5
Miami Heat TradePF (67) David Lee $15,012,000 $15,493,680 total salary involved: $15,012,000 before trade: $89,884,300 after trade: $89,771,238 Sacramento Kings Trade
SG (65) Eric Gordon $14,898,938 $15,514,031total salary involved: $14,898,938 before trade: $86,103,619 after trade: $86,216,681 Whew finally i found a trade for david lee, I accept. There is a logjam at our PF/C position and we are lacking in SF and SG so this trade will be very good for our rotation. This also the 3rd part of the cleansing since Gordon has a team option for next year my plan is to not pick it up which means he will be an expiring this year to give us some cap relief for the offseason. Blake Bowman Keith Van Horn Steve Jobs John Stockton Reggie Miller billy Frank Reynolds
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Post by Blake Bowman on Jul 17, 2015 19:27:54 GMT -5
Definitely need a reasoning from Sacramento.
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Post by John Stockton on Jul 17, 2015 19:48:45 GMT -5
it cant voted until both parties act anyway
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Post by Frank Reynolds on Jul 18, 2015 11:29:47 GMT -5
David Lee would help me by being a great starter or 6th man grabbing boards and putting up buckets and im $100,000 closer to the cap
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Post by Blake Bowman on Jul 18, 2015 12:43:55 GMT -5
You could decline Gordons option, clearing ample space for Kawhi. Lee is guaranteed. $100,000 dollars isn't much at all.
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Post by John Stockton on Jul 18, 2015 13:04:06 GMT -5
yeah, i reject. bc i feel like theres no real benefit for SAC to be doing this.
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Steve Jobs
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Post by Steve Jobs on Jul 18, 2015 13:11:57 GMT -5
Neither one solves his problem, honestly. Based on real life cap, Kawhi got 18M/year. I doubt our cap jumps to 70 Million, but even then his max is probably still over 15. Considering how long AJ had to shop Lee before someone bit, it seems like it'll be pretty dang hard for SAC to move him as well. So the easiest route for Ron to take would be either a) trading D-Will for someone cheaper/expiring, or b) trading Taj or JeVale McGee and then after either option, declining Gordon's option would probably still be necessary.
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Post by billy on Jul 18, 2015 13:54:59 GMT -5
Neither one solves his problem, honestly. Based on real life cap, Kawhi got 18M/year. I doubt our cap jumps to 70 Million, but even then his max is probably still over 15. Considering how long AJ had to shop Lee before someone bit, it seems like it'll be pretty dang hard for SAC to move him as well. So the easiest route for Ron to take would be either a) trading D-Will for someone cheaper/expiring, or b) trading Taj or JeVale McGee and then after either option, declining Gordon's option would probably still be necessary. Actually our cap for next season will be 70 million. Whatever the real life NBA cap is, so shall it be here. |
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Post by Steve Jobs on Jul 18, 2015 14:20:32 GMT -5
Neither one solves his problem, honestly. Based on real life cap, Kawhi got 18M/year. I doubt our cap jumps to 70 Million, but even then his max is probably still over 15. Considering how long AJ had to shop Lee before someone bit, it seems like it'll be pretty dang hard for SAC to move him as well. So the easiest route for Ron to take would be either a) trading D-Will for someone cheaper/expiring, or b) trading Taj or JeVale McGee and then after either option, declining Gordon's option would probably still be necessary. Actually our cap for next season will be 70 million. Whatever the real life NBA cap is, so shall it be here. lol now that you mention it I completely remember having read that. I don't know how I forgot. haha. |
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Post by Reggie Miller on Jul 18, 2015 15:13:00 GMT -5
The Kings are lacking great reasoning for this trade... After this trade you will now have a very small chance to resign Kawhi.. Gibson and Boozer is still in your line up..
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Post by Donald Trump on Jul 18, 2015 19:43:09 GMT -5
i hope you consider guys..this will benefit our teams..he will have rebounding and i can unload a pf for an sg which is lacking on my team
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Post by Steve Jobs on Jul 18, 2015 20:48:15 GMT -5
i hope you consider guys..this will benefit our teams..he will have rebounding and i can unload a pf for an sg which is lacking on my team I mean honestly... what benefit does this offer SAC? DeAndre, Taj, Boozer, and JaVale McGee taking all the minutes as bigs, and it'd be very difficult to argue that Lee deserves to start over a very well rounded player in Gibson. All of his current bigs bring plenty of rebounding/interior defense. Yeah, there's not a GREAT amount of scoring talent there, but considering he's got the Will-Bros probably averaging about 25-30% usage rate each, that doesn't help him much either. Maybe if you swapped one of your bench SGs for one of his bench FCs there could be significant benefit on both sides. But all of that completely ignores that Ron's throwing away one of his best assets in the fight to re-sign Kawhi. Gordon's 15M+ team option will get him infinitely closer to the ~18M he'll need to hold onto Kawhi, whereas David Lee's guaranteed 15M is a contract that Ron will have to actively find a trade for before the offseason. Not to mention, the necessity of dropping contract to keep Kawhi is a well-known issue, so Ron will have virtually no leverage in a negotiation and will probably have to actively lose whatever trade he can find for Lee to make it happen. It's just a massive, stupid gamble on SAC's side, which is nothing new, but definitely not something that I can justify accepting. I reject. |
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Post by John Stockton on Jul 18, 2015 20:53:33 GMT -5
i honestly don't think this makes his team better enough to give up a player 6 years younger and on a better contract. kings will likely need to make more than one move in order to resign kawhi and this trade is a step backwards towards that goal.
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Post by Donald Trump on Jul 18, 2015 21:06:52 GMT -5
well he wants to win the crown this season he is number 1 in west, lee is very efficient so far he has very good stats lee can help him achieve his championship goals this season more than gordon can do
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Post by Donald Trump on Jul 18, 2015 21:08:48 GMT -5
and of course we dont know what his next moves are but i assume he is on talks with others to unload boozer or taj
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Post by Blake Bowman on Jul 18, 2015 22:34:39 GMT -5
and of course we dont know what his next moves are but i assume he is on talks with others to unload boozer or taj I doubt it and I reject. |
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Post by billy on Jul 18, 2015 22:38:19 GMT -5
Trade rejected. Interesting how much context can effect a trade! Sacramento actually did this exact trade with me in PH... But there he didn't need to clear cap space to resign Kawhi Leonard, but I needed to clear cap space to sign Tobias Harris, thus why I wanted Eric Gordon. Hehe, context is everything. |
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Post by Blake Bowman on Jul 18, 2015 22:45:29 GMT -5
Trade rejected. Interesting how much context can effect a trade! Sacramento actually did this exact trade with me in PH... But there he didn't need to clear cap space to resign Kawhi Leonard, but I needed to clear cap space to sign Tobias Harris, thus why I wanted Eric Gordon. Hehe, context is everything. QFT, the context (and team build) warrant the reject here. Value is similar. |
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