Pete Maravich
 Washington Wizards
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Post by Pete Maravich on Jul 10, 2017 14:27:48 GMT -5
Get your last minute offers in for Serge Ibaka! He will make his decision once rfa 1 closes.
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Allan Houston
 New York Knicks
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Post by Allan Houston on Jul 16, 2017 23:19:14 GMT -5
Serge was disappointed his incumbent team, despite having Bird Rights, wouldn't match the top offer in terms of annual salary. Hence, he has decided to join the Oklahoma City Thunder for:
Year 1: $20,000,000
Year 2: $20,000,000
Year 3: $20,000,000
Year 4: $20,000,000
Total: $80,000,000
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Post by John Stockton on Jul 16, 2017 23:22:29 GMT -5
wtf why wouldn't u match
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 7:07:46 GMT -5
I was informed he had an offer that was and i quote "about even". We were not given any option to match and are a little disappointed by Serge's Agent...
I guess winning the eastern conference championship isn't very valuable anymore
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 7:18:26 GMT -5
I've sent some messages out on this, but just for transparency:
Our offer was a total of $75M, resigning with a team Serge has been with, as well as a team that has just gone to the finals
vs.
$80M
I guess that $5M seals the deal
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Paul Pierce
 Chicago Bulls
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Post by Paul Pierce on Jul 17, 2017 7:20:38 GMT -5
I've sent some messages out on this, but just for transparency: Our offer was a total of $75M, resigning with a team Serge has been with, as well as a team that has just gone to the finals vs. $80M I guess that $5M seals the deal money talks $$$ |
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Post by John Stockton on Jul 17, 2017 7:23:03 GMT -5
total of 80m over 5 years or 4? if it was 5 years then i def think it does make a big difference even with bird rights and finals
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Post by John Stockton on Jul 17, 2017 7:27:10 GMT -5
either way, you have bird rights and can go over the cap, if you didn't want to pay 20m/yr, you should have still matched it and traded him since serge would still have positive value at that cost and you could have avoided losing out on him for nothing...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 8:03:35 GMT -5
It's all good. We informed the agent that was our final offer so he did not give us an option to match. This is my first FA in this league and I've vastly overestimated being an incumbent team and also how well a team did. My thought was if I am resigning a player I have the upper hand if it's a minimal amount, also I figured going to the finals was more to my benefit than reality.
If this was a real situation obviously Serge would never leave a contending team for a difference of $5M
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Steve Jobs
 Oklahoma City Thunder
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Post by Steve Jobs on Jul 17, 2017 8:57:02 GMT -5
Seems to me like we're talking about 75 / 5 vs 80 / 4. That's $5M less every single year, and only sort of evens out because he's signed for an extra year. Your offer honestly is $20M less over the course of the first four years, and still falls $5M short of mine after a 5th. All you'd probably have to do to be almost unbeatable as the incumbent team is actually get in the same per-year ballpark as my offer. But since you capped your final offer at a lowball $15M vs the $20M he ended up taking, I get voting for $20M as a PA. Most incumbent teams offer more than other teams, or at least about the same, but over the course of 5 years your offer loses the guy $25M.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 9:25:58 GMT -5
Well actually it doesn't lose him $25M. It's $5M plus whatever his next contract would be. If he got $20M in his next deal then yes, it would be $25M. I doubt Serge gets another $20M contract, so we can agree that it's not a $25M difference. Certainly your deal gains him more money
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Post by DJ Jazzy Jeff on Jul 17, 2017 10:02:07 GMT -5
Horford, Turner and Ibaka is scary...
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Post by John Stockton on Jul 17, 2017 18:48:10 GMT -5
Well actually it doesn't lose him $25M. It's $5M plus whatever his next contract would be. which is probably gonna be around 20m |
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