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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Jun 23, 2018 22:47:21 GMT -5
Jamario Moon bamboozling Walt is my favorite draft storyline already. ~Not that I'm glad he got bamboozled, I just love drama~ This draft is hype yo Like let's see the messages let's go on this thing I'm into it--though also sad because Walt gave up a good bit to get that pick and he's been one of my faves to negotiate with |
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Post by Jackie Kong on Jun 23, 2018 22:50:08 GMT -5
Jamario Moon bamboozling Walt is my favorite draft storyline already. ~Not that I'm glad he got bamboozled, I just love drama~ This draft is hype yo The last 7 hours have been the most dramatic in D720 history. |
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Jun 23, 2018 22:51:30 GMT -5
Jamario Moon bamboozling Walt is my favorite draft storyline already. ~Not that I'm glad he got bamboozled, I just love drama~ This draft is hype yo The last 7 hours have been the most dramatic in D720 history. We're either about to get real exciting or evaporate into the netherworld |
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Walt Frazier
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jun 23, 2018 23:00:19 GMT -5
As soon as Jamario asked about two, I asked who they wanted. Response: I'm looking at one of the generational bigs this draft, either Bamba, JJJ or Bagley. Gonna do some research this next 24 hrs to see which I want I said I wanted Doncic so now I needed to decide on a big myself. Jamario sent a couple other messages, then this one: As I mentioned I'm still looking into bagley jjj and bamba. I was never interested in doncic Gotcha. I'm now deciding on those guys myself, including Ayton in the research. Also not sure how much I want Schroeder anymore either. Would Ntilikina be on the table? (Jamarios first offer had Schroeder in it.) Couple of messages back and forth, Jamario trying to give me more 2nds, I said no, Jamario said they would do 3 & 22 for 2, then this: I’haven’t quite decided but i think I’m keen on bamba and jjj I got 3 offers overnight, this is the only one I'm considering. You're set on one of those two? I like one of your two interests myself, but 22 may make it worth it to slide back... Also, curious - you haven't mentioned Ayton, what do you have against him? I've come up with some things myself but curious what others think. His physique is outrageous but his attitude and defensive iq scares me. Also he couldn’t even beat Buffalo in college, and the suns is an awful spot to be. Got divas in booker, Chriss, bender, and the front office is a mess Alright so, you're taking Bamba or JJJ right? If so, I'm willing to give up my choice and move back one, to get 22. I like one of those two or one other player, but I'm willing to slide back and risk losing the choice if you take the one I like. If you're set on one of those two, we can post it. "I'll post it. Pleasure dealing with you Walt!" |
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jun 23, 2018 23:01:18 GMT -5
What a fucking joke.
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Post by Jamario Moon on Jun 23, 2018 23:05:55 GMT -5
Imagine if real NBA GMs were having this discussion... Your expectations of me telling you who I wanted are unrealistic. Danny Ainge would have a a field day with you
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Jun 23, 2018 23:08:16 GMT -5
Well I'm rooting for you to nab all-star at 3 and 22, sport |
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Post by Brown Cobb IV on Jun 23, 2018 23:09:24 GMT -5
Im sorry Walt but if you actually expect people to tell you who they are picking and reveal their draft boards then that is just naive. I dont really see the issue here, if you really wanted Ayton you should have just kept the pick and drafted him, doesnt matter what other people say.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jun 23, 2018 23:09:25 GMT -5
Imagine if real NBA GMs were having this discussion... Your expectations of me telling you who I wanted are unrealistic All you had to do was say you didn't want to tell me. Or, you can lie repeatedly. Real GMs in sports actually understand that they may have to deal with one another again, and there are only 30 of us in a league at once. So, we don't want to be pissed at each other or be known as non-truthful. Just good to know who is behind the screen sometimes. Good luck with your team, but please, fuck off. |
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Walt Frazier
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jun 23, 2018 23:10:44 GMT -5
Im sorry Walt but if you actually expect people to tell you who they are picking and reveal their draft boards then that is just naive. I dont really see the issue here, if you really wanted Ayton you should have just kept the pick and drafted him, doesnt matter what other people say. As I said, I actually really like who I'm taking at 3, but do not appreciate being lied to. Repeatedly. And I will shout it from the rooftops, as you see. It deserves to be called out. |
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Post by Jamario Moon on Jun 23, 2018 23:11:57 GMT -5
I guess next time I'll just leak it to the media that Trae Young MURDERED his workout with the Heat
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Post by Steve Jobs on Jun 23, 2018 23:13:55 GMT -5
Not to be a dick, man... like I get where you're coming from and respect why you're upset... but this exact possibility is also one of the obvious risks of moving down for the sake of adding an extra first and it's probably fair to say that between Bagley/Bamba/JJJ and pick 22 you're breaking even, and if you don't think so then trading the pick was a mistake. Being lied to sucks, but if the possibility of having Ayton snaked was enough of an issue to make the trade not worth it to you, you shouldn't have traded it, if only for the possibility of someone else chasing that pick with an offer Jamario couldn't refuse and then Ayton gets taken there anyway. |
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Post by Jamario Moon on Jun 23, 2018 23:19:02 GMT -5
Can confirm, pick was definitely chased by someone else who wanted Ayton
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Post by Jackie Kong on Jun 23, 2018 23:28:29 GMT -5
I bet Warriors are looking to move 5 and 9 for Ayton.
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Post by Ron Artest(1x Champ) on Jun 23, 2018 23:32:23 GMT -5
I won’t justify this, because it’s grimey as hell, but like others are saying, I don’t get the whole purpose of detailing your draft plans to another gm. Unfortunately the kings and heat play in two separate conferences so we won’t get to see this new rivalry play out on a consistent basis.
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Allan Houston
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Post by Allan Houston on Jun 23, 2018 23:40:37 GMT -5
I've been only paying attention to the finals. Anything interesting going on elsewhere in the league?
(I will say, lying is not a great strategy in many iterated games)
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Post by Stuff The Magic Dragon on Jun 23, 2018 23:45:00 GMT -5
Deandre Ayton = Joel Embii
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Post by Jackie Kong on Jun 23, 2018 23:47:03 GMT -5
But based on the evidence, was he really lying if he ends up trading Ayton? Maybe, he does think he sucks.
I think Walt's feelings are understandable though.
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Post by Jamario Moon on Jun 24, 2018 0:02:54 GMT -5
I will say that I didn't plan on it turning out this way from the start, and I never said I wasn't taking Ayton. Walt has also left out some key conversation elements.
When I initiated talks and he first asked who I wanted, I assumed Ayton would be going number 1 and that was indeed my draft board: JJJ, Bagley and Bamba. The second time he asked who I wanted (after Doncic was taken) I just said, like I mentioned before I'm interested in those bigs and I was especially keen on JJJ and Bamba.
He then asked what I had against Ayton, so I told him all the negatives I was - and still am - worried about
When he asked "Alright so, you're taking Bamba or JJJ right?" I just said I'd post the trade. Also, when a guy says this, that's just asking for too much info I'm about ready to pick and will only move down if you tell me who you're taking and it's not the guy I want  Shady? Without a doubt. Do I understand why Walt is mad? Absolutely.
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Post by Jackie Kong on Jun 24, 2018 0:08:33 GMT -5
I've been only paying attention to the finals. Anything interesting going on elsewhere in the league? Yes. Colin Loftin logged in an hour ago. x_x |
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Jun 24, 2018 0:13:40 GMT -5
So... I don't suppose Walt is making his pick yet?
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Post by Penny Hardaway on Jun 24, 2018 0:19:44 GMT -5
I bet Warriors are looking to move 5 and 9 for Ayton. No but maybe Luka |
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Post by Gregg Popovich on Jun 24, 2018 0:19:44 GMT -5
looking at the draft board, i shouldve gave Brian Scalabrine my 7th for shits and giggles so he could pick three players at once. (not serious) |
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Post by Stuff The Magic Dragon on Jun 24, 2018 0:19:57 GMT -5
bet he's shopping his pick again
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Jun 24, 2018 0:22:30 GMT -5
looking at the draft board, i shouldve gave Brian Scalabrine my 7th for shits and giggles so he could pick three players at once. (not serious) I wish you would have! Sadly, though, I traded my 9. |
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Post by Jackie Kong on Jun 24, 2018 0:30:13 GMT -5
So, people say Bagley's stock will fall because Kings picked him. How about Bamba with Magic?  |
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Post by Penny Hardaway on Jun 24, 2018 0:31:18 GMT -5
Trust no man when it comes to competition!
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Post by Jamario Moon on Jun 24, 2018 0:35:14 GMT -5
So, people say Bagley's stock will fall because Kings picked him. How about Bamba with Magic? I think it hurts both of their stocks for sure. In the same vein, Luka's stock went up in my eyes when he was picked by Dallas |
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Post by Jackie Kong on Jun 24, 2018 0:37:46 GMT -5
Trust no man when it comes to competition! or girl or robot or Bryan Colangelo in this case it seems. |
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Post by billy on Jun 24, 2018 6:59:11 GMT -5
Absolutely savage. I don’t think I’ve seen something like this happen in sim league before.
I wouldn’t of taken Ayton at 2 though anyway.
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