Walt Frazier
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jun 24, 2018 7:24:17 GMT -5
Likely, no one will believe me when I say this. But, I truly didn't have a preference between JJJ and Ayton. And, there was (and still is) a part of me that wanted JJJ more than Ayton. So, for anyone asking why I took the risk, I was aware, and was perfectly fine getting one of JJJ or Ayton. At the moment of agreeing to the trade, I was going to pick Ayton at 3. However, I really am fine with JJJ.
I think a spade is a spade and a liar is a liar and it needs to be called out.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jun 24, 2018 7:26:35 GMT -5
I will say that I didn't plan on it turning out this way from the start, and I never said I wasn't taking Ayton. Walt has also left out some key conversation elements.
When I initiated talks and he first asked who I wanted, I assumed Ayton would be going number 1 and that was indeed my draft board: JJJ, Bagley and Bamba. The second time he asked who I wanted (after Doncic was taken) I just said, like I mentioned before I'm interested in those bigs and I was especially keen on JJJ and Bamba.
He then asked what I had against Ayton, so I told him all the negatives I was - and still am - worried about
When he asked "Alright so, you're taking Bamba or JJJ right?" I just said I'd post the trade. Also, when a guy says this, that's just asking for too much info I'm about ready to pick and will only move down if you tell me who you're taking and it's not the guy I want Shady? Without a doubt. Do I understand why Walt is mad? Absolutely.
Outright lying? Not too sure about that one Talk about shady. I posted nearly our entire conversation, my phone was at 2% when I shut down for the night last night lol. When I said "ok so you're taking one of those two? If you are, then post the trade". And then you said, "I'll post it", that is EXACTLY you saying you are not picking Ayton, you ARE picking one of those two. Or, it's lying. Just own it, liar.
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Walt Frazier
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jun 24, 2018 7:28:14 GMT -5
So... I don't suppose Walt is making his pick yet? Don't want to distract anyone who hasn't seen how much of a liar Jamario is, yet. I'll pick tonight.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jun 24, 2018 7:30:26 GMT -5
But based on the evidence, was he really lying if he ends up trading Ayton? Maybe, he does think he sucks. I think Walt's feelings are understandable though. Our trade was contingent on Jamario picking one of those two. At least on a handshake level. I say "if you are picking one of those two, I'm ready to do the trade." And then Jamario immediately after that sentence says yes, I'll post it. Hell, even by trying to trade the pick, that's technically being dishonest. A liar is a liar is a liar is Jamario Moon.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2018 8:20:43 GMT -5
smh lmao
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Post by Brown Cobb IV on Jun 24, 2018 9:38:35 GMT -5
Please stop whining and just make your pick, before someone else scoops it again.
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Walt Frazier
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jun 24, 2018 9:50:43 GMT -5
Please stop whining and just make your pick, before someone else scoops it again. Not whining man. See beyond multiple posts about a single subject, I'm just pointing out a liar. I have like 36+ hours before anyone can "scoop" my player. All good.
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Walt Frazier
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jun 24, 2018 9:51:56 GMT -5
I will say, if Jamario gets on here and just admits to lying, not trying to blame me for taking their word, then I'll pick as soon as I see that post.
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Post by Jamario Moon on Jun 24, 2018 9:54:07 GMT -5
I will say, if Jamario gets on here and just admits to lying, not trying to blame me for taking their word, then I'll pick as soon as I see that post. I lied and this entire situation is my fault. I apologize for my actions
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Post by Jackie Kong on Jun 24, 2018 10:00:04 GMT -5
The top 5 picks have 2 days to make their pick. First Round picks have 12 hours to be picked. I vote to give top 5 picks 12 hours and the rest 6 starting next year. :P
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Walt Frazier
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jun 24, 2018 10:02:00 GMT -5
I will say, if Jamario gets on here and just admits to lying, not trying to blame me for taking their word, then I'll pick as soon as I see that post. I lied and this entire situation is my fault. I apologize for my actions I'm not even saying anything is your "fault." I'm happy with who I will pick. Just want the world to know you lied to get what you want. Say one thing to get what you want, immediately reverse course. Very Trumpian, now that I think about it.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jun 24, 2018 10:02:51 GMT -5
With the 3rd pick in the D720 2018 Rookie Draft, the Sacramento Kings pick Jaren Jackson Jr., PF/C, from Michigan State.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jun 24, 2018 10:12:54 GMT -5
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White Mamba
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Post by White Mamba on Jun 24, 2018 10:25:43 GMT -5
Pick 4 on the block! No need to tell me who you want to pick :)
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Post by Penny Hardaway on Jun 24, 2018 11:34:21 GMT -5
Pick 4 on the block! No need to tell me who you want to pick Lol you just had too kick a team while its down.
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Post by Ron Artest(1x Champ) on Jun 24, 2018 11:39:13 GMT -5
So is everyone just gonna keep trading their pick or?...
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Post by Paul Pierce on Jun 24, 2018 11:50:13 GMT -5
Pick 4 on the block! No need to tell me who you want to pick :) In D5 you said you were taking Bagley at 3. I knew you were bluffing haha
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Post by Jamario Moon on Jun 24, 2018 11:51:09 GMT -5
Pick 4 on the block! No need to tell me who you want to pick :) In D5 you said you were taking Bagley at 3. I knew you were bluffing haha Bluffing or lying?...
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Paul Pierce
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Post by Paul Pierce on Jun 24, 2018 12:04:00 GMT -5
In D5 you said you were taking Bagley at 3. I knew you were bluffing haha Bluffing or lying?... bluffing, why would another team tell me who he's drafting
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Walt Frazier
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jun 24, 2018 12:13:52 GMT -5
FTR, I'm all good with a bluff. Jamario, you had the choice to simply tell me you didn't want to tell me who you were after. I would have said "fair enough" and still given the trade thought.
I just think it's very dishonest and shady af to need to lie.
I've been in Sim Leagues for 15 years, never have I seen this. Congrats.
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Post by White Mamba on Jun 24, 2018 13:01:33 GMT -5
Pick 4 on the block! No need to tell me who you want to pick :) In D5 you said you were taking Bagley at 3. I knew you were bluffing haha I said I was thinking bagley, which I was. But I went back and watched more video and decided to go JJJ instead. The kings scenario also was a factor. At the time I messaged you I honestly was leaning Marvin's way
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Post by billy on Jun 24, 2018 15:12:04 GMT -5
In D5 you said you were taking Bagley at 3. I knew you were bluffing haha I said I was thinking bagley, which I was. But I went back and watched more video and decided to go JJJ instead. The kings scenario also was a factor. At the time I messaged you I honestly was leaning Marvin's way Yeah the kings sure do ruin their centers
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jun 24, 2018 17:22:48 GMT -5
I said I was thinking bagley, which I was. But I went back and watched more video and decided to go JJJ instead. The kings scenario also was a factor. At the time I messaged you I honestly was leaning Marvin's way Yeah the kings sure do ruin their centers Imagine how good that bum DeMarcus Cousins could have been. Anyone remember him? He flamed out so quickly, maybe no one remembers.
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Post by Gregg Popovich on Jun 24, 2018 18:37:32 GMT -5
Yeah the kings sure do ruin their centers Imagine how good that bum DeMarcus Cousins could have been. Anyone remember him? He flamed out so quickly, maybe no one remembers. who?
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Post by Penny Hardaway on Jun 24, 2018 19:01:20 GMT -5
Yeah the kings sure do ruin their centers Imagine how good that bum DeMarcus Cousins could have been. Anyone remember him? He flamed out so quickly, maybe no one remembers. I imagine how good he could have trully been under a good coach or organization like San Antonio. Its not like anybody could have ruined lebrons career but imagine if he started on a team like miami vs an organization like Cleveland.
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Post by White Mamba on Jun 24, 2018 21:32:53 GMT -5
The Milwaukee Bucks select Trae Young, guard, Oklahoma University
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jun 24, 2018 21:38:43 GMT -5
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Post by billy on Jun 24, 2018 21:57:21 GMT -5
The Milwaukee Bucks select Trae Young, guard, Oklahoma University
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Jun 24, 2018 22:03:52 GMT -5
The Milwaukee Bucks select Trae Young, guard, Oklahoma University Damn. I was targeting Young when I traded back to 8. Wasn't certain he'd be there, but felt pretty sure he'd be there until at least 6.
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Paul Pierce
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Post by Paul Pierce on Jun 24, 2018 22:05:21 GMT -5
Risky move , could pay off
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