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Post by Ron Artest(1x Champ) on Jun 29, 2018 6:02:21 GMT -5
Los Angeles Lakers Send:
John Collins $2,463,200 $2,878,400 $4,262,910 $5,929,708
Charlotte Hornets Send:
18’ 1st round pick(19)
We believe in Collins as a modern big in every way, unfortunately the market for wings and guards this FA isn’t necessarily deep, and we’d rather not shoot and miss out on our targets, with Gobert and Dray, Collins becomes expendable to an extent. We still like a few guys in this draft we think can become allstar/all team caliber players.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2018 6:11:48 GMT -5
Hornets accept, I think Collins is better value than anyone I'll pick at 19. I actually drafted him last year during my brief stint at Lakers GM, so I'm happy to have him on board.
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Theodore Duncan
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Post by Theodore Duncan on Jun 29, 2018 6:50:59 GMT -5
Last year's 19th pick for this year's 19th. Seems about right. Accept
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billy
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Post by billy on Jun 29, 2018 7:21:14 GMT -5
Ouch for LAL but still reasonable value.
Accept.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2018 7:33:31 GMT -5
Accept
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Walt Frazier
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jun 29, 2018 7:41:18 GMT -5
Collins is better than what can be picked here, but, it's not far enough off.
Accept
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Walt Frazier
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jun 29, 2018 7:44:47 GMT -5
Ouch for LAL but still reasonable value. Accept. I would give 26 for Kuzma. He was last year's 27. Should I get a 2nd with Kuzma for the value I'm losing? In other words, this is questionable reasoning imo. This trade isn't far enough off to reject, I think, but it's closer to a reject for me than you make it sound here imo. Great trade Barber |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2018 8:05:19 GMT -5
I honestly think this is horrible value for collins, hes a stud and if we redid last year's draft he would be picked much higher! But theres no collusion, or nothing franchise altering here so its a simple
Accept
Good trade hornets
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billy
Miami Heat
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Post by billy on Jun 29, 2018 8:05:26 GMT -5
Ouch for LAL but still reasonable value. Accept. I would give 26 for Kuzma. He was last year's 27. Should I get a 2nd with Kuzma for the value I'm losing? In other words, this is questionable reasoning imo. This trade isn't far enough off to reject, I think, but it's closer to a reject for me than you make it sound here imo. Great trade Barber Oh come on John Collins isn't even the best Collins from last year's draft |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2018 8:06:21 GMT -5
The hell u say lol
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Paul Pierce
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Post by Paul Pierce on Jun 29, 2018 9:08:53 GMT -5
Reject, at 19 the person you'd be glad to get Is someone like Collins
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White Mamba
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Post by White Mamba on Jun 29, 2018 9:39:04 GMT -5
Accept. Reasonable risk but highly unlikely Melton ends up better than John the Baptist
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Walt Frazier
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jun 29, 2018 12:07:32 GMT -5
I would give 26 for Kuzma. He was last year's 27. Should I get a 2nd with Kuzma for the value I'm losing? In other words, this is questionable reasoning imo. This trade isn't far enough off to reject, I think, but it's closer to a reject for me than you make it sound here imo. Great trade Barber Oh come on John Collins isn't even the best Collins from last year's draft Whether this is true or not doesn't actually change my point. The Collins's could be the 7th and 8th best players from last year at this point, (I made up those rankings) and Zach could be 7th with John 8th...doesn't mean your logic still isn't poor. Or, just explained poorly. |
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billy
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Post by billy on Jun 29, 2018 13:20:47 GMT -5
Oh come on John Collins isn't even the best Collins from last year's draft Whether this is true or not doesn't actually change my point. The Collins's could be the 7th and 8th best players from last year at this point, (I made up those rankings) and Zach could be 7th with John 8th...doesn't mean your logic still isn't poor. Or, just explained poorly. I don’t think my statement is wrong. At no point did i say I didn’t think this was still reasonable value. I didn’t say equal value, which is what you started arguing against. John proved he could be good but also proved he won’t ever be an elite player. 19 hasn’t proved either of those things yet. He could be better than John and no one would bat an eye. Reasonable value. |
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billy
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Post by billy on Jun 29, 2018 13:39:04 GMT -5
p.s. i love you walt
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Walt Frazier
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jun 29, 2018 13:48:59 GMT -5
Oh, absolutely, never in doubt. There's only one Collins who holds a truly special place in my heart :) |
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Allan Houston
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Post by Allan Houston on Jun 29, 2018 15:51:10 GMT -5
Trade passed
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Post by Stuff The Magic Dragon on Jun 29, 2018 17:37:22 GMT -5
Oh, absolutely, never in doubt. There's only one Collins who holds a truly special place in my heart :) Phil Collins? |
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Walt Frazier
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jun 29, 2018 21:12:16 GMT -5
Oh, absolutely, never in doubt. There're only two Collins' who hold truly special places in my heart  Phil Collins? Shit, you're right. FTFMyself |
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