NBA all time fantasy draft voting

[Theodore Duncan]

Lets get voting. Choose the 8 teams (one from each match-up) in the poll that would win a 7-game series in neutral arena.

Match-ups for the first round are:

Match-up #1

Team 2 - Nick Van Exel
1. LeBron James
2. Patrick Ewing
3. Ray Allen
4. Grant Hill
5. Penny Hardaway
6. Tim Hardaway
7. Shawn Kemp
8. Bob mcAdoo
9. Maurice cheeks
10. Sam cassell

vs

Team 12 - David Robinson
1. Moses Malone
2. Dirk Nowitzki
3. Paul Pierce
4. Tiny Archibald
5. Carmelo Anthony
6. Artis Gilmore
7. Allan Houston
8. Mark Jackson
9. Larry Johnson
10. Gordon Hayward

Match-up #2

Team 13 - Ben Wallace
1. John Stockton
2. Charles Barkley
3. Dominique Wilkins
4. Karl-Anthony Towns
5. Jimmy Butler
6. Peja Stojakovic
7. Jason Terry
8. Bobby Jones
9. DeAndre Jordan

10. Lamar Odom

vs

Team 4 - DJ Jazzy Jeff
1. Kevin Durant
2. Russel Westbrook
3. Kevin McHale
4. Derrick Rose
5. Kristaps Porzingis
6. DeMar DeRozan
7. Yao Ming
8. Mark Aguirre
9. LaMarcus Aldridge
10. Michael Finley

Match-up #3

Team 14 - Pete Maravich
1. Karl Malone
2. David Robinson
3. Chauncey Billups
4. Shawn Marion
5. Jeff Hornacek
6. Horace Grant
7. Larry Nance
8. Eddie Jones
9. Mookie Blaylock

10. Dan Majerle

vs

Team 8 - Billy King
1. Hakeem Olajuwon
2. Julius Erving
3. George Gervin
4. Chris Bosh
5. Tony Parker
6. Kyle Korver
7. Dave Cowens
8. Buck Williams
9. Bill Laimbeer
10. Kemba Walker

Match-up #4

Team 15 - Paul Pierce
1. Kevin Garnett
2. Allen Iverson
3. Dwight Howard
4. Kyrie Irving
5. Metta World Peace (Ron Artest)
6. Kevin Love
7. Robert Horry
8. Tony Allen
9. Nikola Jokic

10. Terry Porter

vs

Team 3 - Stuff The Magic Dragon
1. Kobe Bryant
2. Dennis Rodman
3. Isiah Thomas
4. Pau Gasol
5. Paul George
6. Bob Lanier
7. Adrian Dantley
8. Fat Lever
9. Blake Griffin
10. Jason Richardson

Match-up #5

Team 10 - Theodore Duncan
1. Magic Johnson
2. Dwyane Wade
3. Tracy McGrady
4. Chris Webber
5. Alonzo Mourning
6. Damian Lillard
7. Andrei Kirilenko
8. Shane Battier
9. Joakim Noah

10. Drazen Petrovic

vs

Team 16 - J Cole
1. James Harden
2. Anthony Davis
3. Vince Carter
4. Giannis Antetokounmpo
5. Mark Eaton
6. Gilbert Arenas
7. Kyle Lowry
8. Amar'e Stoudemire
9. Michael Redd
10. Andre Bargnani

Match-up #6

Team 6 - Brian Scalabrine
1. Larry Bird
2. Jason Kidd
3. Bill Walton
4. Pete Maravich
5. Ben Wallace
6. Chris Mullin
7. DeMarcus Cousins
8. Arvydas Sabonis
9. Rajon Rondo
10. Shareef Abdur-Rahim

vs

Team 1 - Allan Houston
1. Michael Jordan
2. Gary Payton
3. Reggie Miller
4. Dikembe Mutombo
5. Draymond Green
6. Marcus Camby
7. Deron Williams
8. Rashard Lewis
9. Glen Rice
10. Joe Johnson

Match-up #7

Team 11 - Ron Artest
1. Steph Curry
2. Kawhi Leonard
3. Klay Thompson
4. Joel Embiid
5. Rasheed Wallace
6. Michael Cooper
7. Danny Green
8. Kevin Johnson
9. Paul Millsap

10. Steven Adams

vs

Team 5 - Red Auerbach
1. Kareem Abdul Jabbar
2. Chris Paul
3. Clyde Drexler
4. Robert Parish
5. Alex English
6. Dennis Johnson
7. Rudy Gobert
8. Steve Kerr
9. David Thompson
10. Alvin Robertson

Match-up #8

Team 9 - Jackie Kong
1. Tim Duncan
2. Scottie Pippen
3. Manu Ginobili
4. Joe Dumars
5. Sidney Moncrief
6. Al Horford
7. Andre Iguodala
8. Marc Gasol
9. Detlef Schrempf
10. Brent Barry

vs

Team 7 - Yeezy
1. Shaquille O'Neal
2. Steve Nash
3. Rick Barry
4. James Worthy
5. Elvin Hayes
6. Mitch Richmond
7. Mark Price
8. Brandon Roy
9. Bernard King
10. Latrell Sprewell




I think it’s good if both GM’s give some reasoning of how they have visioned their team to play. Starting 5 and tactics. If they are gonna run&gun, lockdown defense, slow the pace and pound it inside every time, etc..
Specifically if you have some old legends in the team, might be a good idea to let others know why those players are so awesome. Not everyone knows that well the players from 70s and 80s and you might lose some votes if people don’t know your players strengths.

Obviously everyone thinks their team is the best to win it all, so there will be for sure disappointments. Keep it civilized when arguing. Obviously everyone can and should say their opinion about the matchup. Not just the GM’s whose teams are in question. Also the D720 GM’s who where not drafting a team can vote and participate in discussion.

Lets see how quickly the votes start coming in. We can decide the deadline for the first round after the start.

[Ron Artest(1x Champ)]

Starting 5:
Steph
Klay
Kawhi
Rasheed
Embiid

Small Ball Lineup:
Steph
Klay
Danny Green
Kawhi
Rasheed

Base Tactics:
15-(Pre KD Warriors)/13-14 Spurs. Offensively we’re going to run and gun obviously, shooting is our best attribute, and we’d aim to maximize that by great ball movement, a lot of baseline plays, screens, etc... alternatively, Steph/Kevin Johnson could run the pick and pop with Sheed, Embiid, and Millsap as well.

Defensively I’d also make sure to rotate Klay, Kawhi, Michael Cooper, and Danny on opposing teams best guard and forward scorers. Embiid, Sheed, Millsap, and Steven Adams for bigs. We’re more than good enough defensively to play man defense, but I’d switch Klay onto opposing teams 1 guards depending on the matchup. Michael Cooper would also be pretty effective in regards to helping hide Curry in specific matchups. Lastly, A 2-3 defense would be used in stints against teams with mediocre outside shooting/poor spacing.

Small Ball Tactics:
The make a run lineup. I’d go to this lineup if we were in need of a run, or if we were aiming to kill off a game. Rasheed was good enough as far as interior defense to start at center. Three 40% career shooters from 3 would be difficult to guard, and I’d still keep a really good defense on the floor.

[Jackie Kong]

Wont be able to comment on each of my own matchups so you can just quote me on this if needed.

About my offense, I imagine I would primarily play some sort of flex offense. I don't have a pg 1st sort of player or a superstar scorer but I have all players that are good to great passers for their positions, can handle the ball if needed and score efficiently from different positions. I picture my team running the offense like the 2014 Spurs or some of the most glorious Argentina national teams, lol.

About my defense, I would mostly play man to man with each individual matchup depending on the opponent. To defend superstar guards I would use Moncrief, Dumars and a bit of Iguodala, for superstar forwards I would use Pippen and a bit of Iguodala and for superstar big men I probably would rotate between Duncan, Gasol and a bit of Horford. About my bigs I would mostly focus on them not getting into foul trouble.

My starting lineup would be:
Joe Dumars
Sidney Moncrief
Scottie Pippen
Tim Duncan
Marc Gasol

My death lineup would be:
Joe Dumars
Manu Ginobili
Scottie Pippen
Al Horford
Tim Duncan

About my starting lineup, I would start the game with my very best defensive team. Then, I would start adding some offensive flavor to it. About my death lineup, I picked the players that I think combine for the best defense, ball movement, spacing and scoring capability.

About minutes distribution, I would give most players a fair amount of time playing diverse positions. The player I would probably give less minutes to is Barry. I don't particularly love his stamina for long minutes but I think he would be perfect for 10 minutes per game adding some super efficient and versatile offense scoring, handling and passing the ball. In general, I would like my players to be as fresh as possible all the time to keep that offensive and defensive motor moving as fast and efficiently as possible.

About how good my team is compared to others I don't really know. I think all teams are pretty solid. I just tried to build a team I like, lol.

[Allan Houston]

Why don't we do each of these individually? A tournament is only 15 games. One daily would only take two weeks.

[Theodore Duncan]

Oct 4, 2018 18:15:17 GMT -5 Allan Houston said:

Why don't we do each of these individually? A tournament is only 15 games. One daily would only take two weeks.

I kinda like this idea also. I was thinking to first post at least each matchup individually although at the same time, so we could discuss them all. I have a feeling that now only couple of matchups will be actually discussed and rest just voted

[Stuff The Magic Dragon]

Team 3 - Stuff The Magic Dragon
Starters (Defense, Scoring, Great Ball Movement)
PG Isiah Thomas - Can excel even though he's not the primary star player of the team (Refer to the Pistons of the 80s/90s). Great Perimeter defender and Playmaker.
SG Kobe Bryant - 2nd Greatest SG of All-time. (I'm a Kobe fan but MJ is #1)
SF Paul George - Can defend multiple positions. A better player if he's not the primary star player. Can compliment Kobe well and a great spot-up shooter.
PF Dennis Rodman - Can defend multiple positions. Will play a Draymond-type of role minus the 3pt shooting and playmaker but with a boost in rebounds and blocks.
C Pau Gasol - Definitely can Defend the Paint. Kobe's Sidekick. (See also Prime Pau Gasol)

Backup (Scoring, Athleticism, Great Ball Movement)
PG Fat Lever - Triple-Double machine way way back. Is a good perimeter defender.
SG Jason Richardson - Explosive and Streaky Scorer plus an Athletic player. Is a good perimeter defender.
SF Adrian Dantley - Melo before Melo. Can score in bunches though he's not a defender (like Melo lmao).
PF Blake Griffin - Great scorer, rebounder, playmaker, athletic can defend.
C Bob Lanier - One of the Greatest Big Man. Played against Kareem, Wilt, Willis, Cowens and Walton. Can score from Inside the paint and can shoot outside, outstanding rebounder.

[Theodore Duncan]

Bump.. don't forget to vote everyone. Let's keep this open for a day or two still.

Couple of matchups where it's very close imo. Specifically #3 and #4 are tough to choose.

[billy]

if you vote me ;)

[Paul Pierce]

No way stuffs team beats mine, asinine

[Stuff The Magic Dragon]

Oct 9, 2018 18:42:22 GMT -5 Paul Pierce said:

No way stuffs team beats mine, asinine

bruh your starters will have a hard time scoring against mine and your backups are meh

[Paul Pierce]

Oct 9, 2018 23:07:30 GMT -5 Stuff The Magic Dragon said:

Oct 9, 2018 18:42:22 GMT -5 Paul Pierce said:

No way stuffs team beats mine, asinine

bruh your starters will have a hard time scoring against mine and your backups are meh

Iverson is a top 10 scorer ever. KG and Dwight are HOF players and Kyrie is smooth and imo better than Isaiah Thomas. Plus my bench is well rounded. Almost no weakness

[Stuff The Magic Dragon]

Oct 10, 2018 21:17:27 GMT -5 Paul Pierce said:

Oct 9, 2018 23:07:30 GMT -5 Stuff The Magic Dragon said:

bruh your starters will have a hard time scoring against mine and your backups are meh

Iverson is a top 10 scorer ever. KG and Dwight are HOF players and Kyrie is smooth and imo better than Isaiah Thomas. Plus my bench is well rounded. Almost no weakness

I understand your bias towards your team

[Theodore Duncan]

I kinda like PP's team also more since there are lot of players whose skill set complements each other. Although Stuff is now leading the vote.
Stuff has great players on the second unit, but I don't really know how they would work together. Spacing in the second unit would be my main concern since everyone expect Richardson needs to get to work either on midrange or under the basket to get buckets efficiently.

I think it might be time to close the voting soon an move to the next round. Only matchup 2 is still even. Once we get that to swing to either direction we can close the voting. DJ Jazzy Jeff and Ben Wallace make your last pitches to get the votes

[DJ Jazzy Jeff]

Accolades. Look em up. Got 3 MVPs, scoring champs, NBA champs, All Stars, All-NBA, All-Defense, 6MOTY, and Unicorns. This team will out score you and bully you inside the paint. Good luck.

[Ron Artest(1x Champ)]

Oct 10, 2018 21:17:27 GMT -5 Paul Pierce said:

Oct 9, 2018 23:07:30 GMT -5 Stuff The Magic Dragon said:

bruh your starters will have a hard time scoring against mine and your backups are meh

Iverson is a top 10 scorer ever. KG and Dwight are HOF players and Kyrie is smooth and imo better than Isaiah Thomas. Plus my bench is well rounded. Almost no weakness

I admire the fact that you consistently overrate Kyrie Irving

[Ron Artest(1x Champ)]

I noticed me and Red are split even, so I’ll just say this. Kareem would definitely eat, I have some good big men I can throw at him, but he’d get his 25-30. The discrepancy lies in perimeter shooting, I have 3 guys that shoot 40% from three, and a few others that are exceptional from range. I think I’d have too much fire power for a team primarily relying on layups and midrange buckets

[Ron Artest(1x Champ)]

Oct 11, 2018 1:52:14 GMT -5 Theodore Duncan said:

I kinda like PP's team also more since there are lot of players whose skill set complements each other. Although Stuff is now leading the vote.
Stuff has great players on the second unit, but I don't really know how they would work together. Spacing in the second unit would be my main concern since everyone expect Richardson needs to get to work either on midrange or under the basket to get buckets efficiently.

I think it might be time to close the voting soon an move to the next round. Only matchup 2 is still even. Once we get that to swing to either direction we can close the voting. DJ Jazzy Jeff and Ben Wallace make your last pitches to get the votes

I picked stuff, simply because I believe Kyrie and AI would get abused defensively. Also, Kobe and Zeke were great perimeter defenders

[Ben Wallace]

John Stockton pick and roll and popping with everyone.

[Paul Pierce]

Oct 11, 2018 7:37:02 GMT -5 Ron Artest(1x Champ) said:

Oct 10, 2018 21:17:27 GMT -5 Paul Pierce said:

Iverson is a top 10 scorer ever. KG and Dwight are HOF players and Kyrie is smooth and imo better than Isaiah Thomas. Plus my bench is well rounded. Almost no weakness

I admire the fact that you consistently overrate Kyrie Irving

Maybe a little but I firmly believe this era would scrape guys like IT and other pgs. Kyrie is an ideal point guard on a championship squad.

[Red Auerbach]

Clyde the Glide, English, and Thompson have explosiveness.
Kerr adds the outside shooting.

[Stuff The Magic Dragon]

Oct 11, 2018 19:15:26 GMT -5 Paul Pierce said:

Oct 11, 2018 7:37:02 GMT -5 Ron Artest(1x Champ) said:

I admire the fact that you consistently overrate Kyrie Irving

Maybe a little but I firmly believe this era would scrape guys like IT and other pgs. Kyrie is an ideal point guard on a championship squad.

Pass first PGs are the ideal PG.

[Theodore Duncan]

I have just locked the voting since we finally got all the matchups to results with no ties. And all have between 12-14 votes, so not even all the people drafting did vote, but due to the offseason the activity levels are gonna be low. I think this is already enough sample size.

Congrats @xavier0717 DJ Jazzy Jeff billy Stuff The Magic Dragon Theodore Duncan Allan Houston Ron Artest(1x Champ) and Jackie Kong for winning the matchups and advancing to the second round. Second round voting thread coming up.. stay tuned.

[Stuff The Magic Dragon]

Oct 12, 2018 6:58:16 GMT -5 Theodore Duncan said:

I have just locked the voting since we finally got all the matchups to results with no ties. And all have between 12-14 votes, so not even all the people drafting did vote, but due to the offseason the activity levels are gonna be low. I think this is already enough sample size.

Congrats @xavier0717 DJ Jazzy Jeff billy Stuff The Magic Dragon Theodore Duncan Allan Houston Ron Artest(1x Champ) and Jackie Kong for winning the matchups and advancing to the second round. Second round voting thread coming up.. stay tuned.

will the matchups be randomized too?

[Theodore Duncan]

Oct 12, 2018 7:51:14 GMT -5 Stuff The Magic Dragon said:

Oct 12, 2018 6:58:16 GMT -5 Theodore Duncan said:

I have just locked the voting since we finally got all the matchups to results with no ties. And all have between 12-14 votes, so not even all the people drafting did vote, but due to the offseason the activity levels are gonna be low. I think this is already enough sample size.

Congrats @xavier0717 DJ Jazzy Jeff billy Stuff The Magic Dragon Theodore Duncan Allan Houston Ron Artest(1x Champ) and Jackie Kong for winning the matchups and advancing to the second round. Second round voting thread coming up.. stay tuned.

will the matchups be randomized too?

I think having just one bracket draw was enough. Now it's winner of matchups 1 and 2, then 3 vs 4, etc...