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Post by billy on Jun 6, 2015 10:38:11 GMT -5
Dynasty 720 Draft Order Results# Team Name 1 Milwaukee Bucks 2 New York Knicks 3 Los Angeles Clippers 4 Minnesota Timberwolves 5 Philadlephia 76ers 6 Memphis Grizzlies 7 Utah Jazz 8 Seattle Supersonics 9 Boston Celtics 10 Detroit Pistons 11 Charlotte Hornets 12 Houston Rockets 13 Portland Trailblazers 14 Miami Heat 15 San Antonio Spurs 16 Dallas Mavericks 17 Cleveland Cavaliers 18 Sacramento Kings 19 Brooklyn Nets 20 Golden State Warriors 21 Atlanta Hawks 22 Orlando Magic 23 Chicago Bulls 24 Phoenix Suns 25 Oklahoma City Thunder 26 New Orleans Pelicans 27 Torono Raptors 28 Indiana Pacers 29 Los Angeles Lakers 30 Washington Wizards Draft will be next Saturday. 6/13/2015 at 12:00-17:00 EST. 10 minutes per pick. Contracts will be the current real life contract as of 2014-2015 NBA Season. i.e. Marc Gasol would only have a one year contract 2014-15 $15,829,688 You do NOT get bird rights on players unless they've been with YOUR team for 3 years. Therefore, Marc Gasol would be an UFA after 1 year in the sim. So choose carefully. www.spotrac.com/nba/memphis-grizzlies/marc-gasol/So make sure you also take into a player contract when picking them high! Also, keep in mind that all option years are changed to TEAM OPTIONS except for qualifying offers. We will have RFA in this league.
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Post by billy on Jun 6, 2015 10:52:55 GMT -5
Anyone you can think of that hasn't been taken :)
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Post by Milt Newton on Jun 6, 2015 11:36:03 GMT -5
Yay, I'm going to pick fourth! (sigh of relief)
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Post by Stan Van Gundy on Jun 6, 2015 11:43:58 GMT -5
sir BK is this base on database?
i think tristan thompson is not 60,i think he is 64.
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Post by billy on Jun 6, 2015 11:46:12 GMT -5
sir BK is this base on database? i think tristan thompson is not 60,i think he is 64. Haha good catch Steve :D Yes we will be using the same ratings from ph for the first season, and open up the stock watch threads after the conclusion of season 1. |
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Post by Stan Van Gundy on Jun 6, 2015 11:51:31 GMT -5
why steve?lol
i thought i write stan van gundy.lol
ok sir no problem,base on the new database 64 not 60.lol
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Post by billy on Jun 6, 2015 11:52:28 GMT -5
why steve?lol i thought i write stan van gundy.lol ok sir no problem,base on the new database 64 not 60.lol oh haha my bad, brain fart |
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Post by Steven Armstead on Jun 6, 2015 23:08:13 GMT -5
Where do the player ratings come from?
Are these ratings based strictly on performance?
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Post by billy on Jun 7, 2015 0:25:36 GMT -5
Where do the player ratings come from? Are these ratings based strictly on performance? The player ratings came from a file found on the internet and then adjusted by the commissioner of pinoyhoops. Some of the ratings for the players rated less than 58 are still be adjusted. The ratings are based on performance, yes. In the future we will have a section called "Stock Watch", where all the GMs of Dynasty 720 get an equal vote on ratings of players. When the forum is introduced will depend on how smoothly the league is running, if it is running well we may introduce the stock watch later this season, or we may wait until the offseason. But at that time anyone will be able to create a thread making an argument for why they think a players rating is wrong, and what it should be. Then all the GMs that want to vote can vote, and then the player will be rerated to the average of everyone's votes. Thats how most of these were made. |
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Post by Blake Bowman on Jun 7, 2015 11:55:11 GMT -5
Lol, I was going to choose Milwaukee to bring home a title, then I was like, nah LA would be easier to win with. Now the Bucks have #1 and I have #29, this may be another rebuild. ;)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2015 13:01:11 GMT -5
So, I'm sure everyone here is going to play fair.
But, isn't downplaying other team's players in everyone's else's interest?
(And, vice versa... Ppl lobby extra hard for their own guys?)
Reason I ask is, I've seen things in Fantasy Football leagues where Veto Alliances form & it can really wreck the game.
So, can we treat this like judging in the Olympics?
Eliminate the Top 6 (20%) & Bottom 6 (20%) of scores & then avg. the 18 (60%) of scores in the middle.
Note: I'm also willing to admit that I'm making something out of nothing here & we don't gotta worry at all...
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Post by billy on Jun 7, 2015 13:35:39 GMT -5
So, I'm sure everyone here is going to play fair. But, isn't downplaying other team's players in everyone's else's interest? (And, vice versa... Ppl lobby extra hard for their own guys?) Reason I ask is, I've seen things in Fantasy Football leagues where Veto Alliances form & it can really wreck the game. So, can we treat this like judging in the Olympics? Eliminate the Top 6 (20%) & Bottom 6 (20%) of scores & then avg. the 18 (60%) of scores in the middle. Note: I'm also willing to admit that I'm making something out of nothing here & we don't gotta worry at all... We do eliminate the top and bottom vote. And more gms vote the less bias will show through :) |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2015 8:55:40 GMT -5
So how exactly is player performance determined? i.e. Griffin and Wall are both 75, is there a further breakdown in different skill categories?
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Post by billy on Jun 8, 2015 8:59:31 GMT -5
So how exactly is player performance determined? i.e. Griffin and Wall are both 75, is there a further breakdown in different skill categories? Yes the players have individual ratings based on attributes that are set based on their real life stats. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2015 10:08:00 GMT -5
Are we able to see the individual ratings or should we just assume players will play similar to real life?
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Post by billy on Jun 8, 2015 10:22:53 GMT -5
Are we able to see the individual ratings or should we just assume players will play similar to real life? Individual ratings are still being adjusted for some minor players. They won't be revealed for ahwile, but yes the players will play as close to real life as possible! Each player has been hand crafted to basketball-reference.com and scouting reports. |
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Post by Allan Houston on Jun 10, 2015 20:10:09 GMT -5
Why not use median instead of truncated mean? It's more robust to outliers, and more importantly since the stockwatch votes aren't blind, eliminates strategic voting. With truncated voting, for example, suppose one of my players is voted on. Say 15 people voted before I vote. I can just vote the same (or minus 1 depending on how you truncate the votes) as the highest vote, and manipulate my player to be ranked higher than I actually believe. Hopefully, we're all trustworthy and vote according to our true evaluations, regardless of strategic concerns, but if we can eliminate that through the voting methods why not?
Furthermore, if possible blind voting should be instituted anyway. I think we can succumb to cognitive biases otherwise. For example, suppose someone starts a thread on player A and says he's a 68. I really think he's a 50, but we're so far off that I start to doubt myself. Therefore, hedging that I may be wrong and not wanting to look stupid to everyone else, I vote, say 58. The less extreme vote doesn't accurately portray my true evaluation. In fact, looking briefly at pinoyhoops I was surprised that a lot of stockwatch votes tend to cluster very closely together. And I'm sure other biases arise, considering how in favor of blind voting voting theorists are (I've only briefly studied it).
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Post by billy on Jun 13, 2015 13:17:34 GMT -5
Rest of players available to be drafted, ratings not complete yet:
Andrei Kirilenko
Gary Harris
Noah Vonleh
Shawn Marion
Carl Landry
Chase Budinger
Jeremy Lamb
Samuel Dalembert
Will Bynum
Julius Randle
Darius Morris
Emeka Okafor
Jordan Farmar
Kyle Anderson
Michael Beasley
Reggie Williams
Shelvin Mack
Trevor Booker
Xavier Henry
C.J. McCollum
Christian Eyenga
Clint Capela
E'Twaun Moore
James Ennis
Jason Terry
Jonas Jerebko
Jordan Adams
Lester Hudson
Nate Robinson
Nik Stauskas
Richard Jefferson
Tony Mitchell
Will Barton
Wesley Johnson
Derrick Williams
A.J. Price
Byron Mullens
Caron Butler
Ed Davis
Hakim Warrick
Isaiah Canaan
James Anderson
James Young
John Salmons
Martell Webster
Rashard Lewis
Sebastian Telfair
Terrence Williams
Tim Frazier
Tim Hardaway Jr.
Anthony Bennett
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
Raymond Felton
Alexey Shved
Chris Copeland
Danny Granger
Earl Clark
Malcolm Lee
Marquis Daniels
Mike Miller
Rodrigue Beaubois
Stephen Jackson
Willie Green
Zach Lavine
P.J. Hairston
Al Thornton
Austin Daye
Joel Freeland
Bojan Bogdanovic
Charles Jenkins
Chris Johnson
DaJuan Summers
Damion James
Derrick Brown
Durand Scott
Glen Davis
Henry Walker
Ian Clark
Ish Smith
Jamario Moon
Jared Dudley
Jason Richardson
Jeremy Evans
Jordan Hamilton
Kevin Murphy
Linas Kleiza
Marcus Thornton
Mike Scott
Otto Porter Jr.
Perry Jones
Rasual Butler
Reggie Bullock
Robert Covington
Rodney Williams
Ronnie Price
Ryan Kelly
Tornike Shengelia
Tyrus Thomas
Mike Dunleavy
Alan Anderson
Ben Gordon
Doron Lamb
Elias Harris
Jared Cunningham
Joe Ingles
Justin Holiday
Mirza Teletovic
Nate Wolters
Sean Williams
Shane Larkin
Shannon Brown
Matt Barnes
Luis Scola
Steve Blake
Charlie Villanueva
Chris Singleton
Jermaine Taylor
Joffrey Lauvergne
Landry Fields
Nando de Colo
Omri Casspi
Shawne Williams
Solomon Hill
Toney Douglas
Travis Leslie
Vander Blue
Wesley Witherspoon
Luke Ridnour
Adreian Payne
Brian Roberts
Damien Inglis
DeJuan Blair
DeShawn Stevenson
Hedo Turkoglu
Jarnell Stokes
Jon Leuer
Kyle O'Quinn
Nick Calathes
Quincy Pondexter
Randy Foye
Ronnie Brewer
Ronny Turiaf
Terrel Harris
Drew Gooden
Anthony Tolliver
Jason Maxiell
Pablo Prigioni
Cleanthony Early
Arnett Moultrie
Brandon Rush
Chris Douglas-Roberts
Darrell Arthur
Erick Green
Erik Murphy
Greg Smith
Justin Hamilton
Kenyon Martin
Matt Bonner
Mike Muscala
Nick Johnson
Pero Antic
Rodney Hood
Trey Thompkins
Victor Claver
Shabazz Napier
Kendrick Perkins
Luke Babbitt
Gerald Wallace
Quincy Acy
Aaron Gray
Allen Crabbe
Andrew Nicholson
Glen Rice Jr.
Glenn Robinson III
James McAdoo
Jason Thompson
John Jenkins
Lucas Nogueira
Phil Pressey
Quincy Miller
Russ Smith
Spencer Dinwiddie
Troy Daniels
Tyler Johnson
Nick Collison
Udonis Haslem
Bruno Caboclo
Festus Ezeli
Kostas Papanikolau
Josh Huestis
Aaron Baynes
Malcolm Thomas
Sergey Karasev
Tarik Black
Zoran Dragic
Jerami Grant
Zaza Pachulia
Metta World Peace
Ekpe Udoh
Alonzo Gee
Donald Sloan
James Jones
Joe Harris
Jerome Jordan
Henry Sims
Andre Miller
Cameron Bairstow
Ricky Ledo
Alexis Ajinca
Austin Rivers
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2015 9:25:37 GMT -5
Gordon
Shumpert
Beverly
Jackson
Mozgov
Bazemore
Exum....etc
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2015 9:26:24 GMT -5
All need crossed off..
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Post by billy on Jun 18, 2015 9:27:25 GMT -5
half those guys haven't even been taken, but ill cross of the ones that were :)
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Post by Allan Houston on Jun 18, 2015 20:21:43 GMT -5
So there are a couple players I'm interested in who aren't listed at all. I'll probably target them in free agency rather than the draft, but regardless how would it work? Do we have to do a stockwatch thread first to determine their value?
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