billy
Miami Heat
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Post by billy on Feb 23, 2019 8:56:45 GMT -5
Hey guys, Even though my retirement was a bit abrupt, I want to do this handover in the correct fashion. For the health of the league and fairness to all involved. While I no longer have the gumption to run the day-to-day activities of the league, I'm still interested in 720 being a great place to be, and everyone here having a great time. I've been incredibly impressed at all the GMs, old and new, that have stepped up and volunteered to do different parts of the league. However, I worry without a rigid power structure in place and without someone (or a group of someone's) to defer to, every major decision might be met with consternation. Because of this I figured I'd list out who does what, and with these suggestions in place could provide a stable path for the league to move forward. While most of my problems with being commish have come from the stress of having to deal with personal conflict, and the lack of time, I feel like it's possible for me to maintain some roles and not really aggravate any of those issues. There have been lots of advantages this season to having a commissioner that doesn't own a team themselves, and I don't see any reason to throw that away. Also, I just won't give up the @ admin account, because that gives people the ability to delete the league. We don't know who could be doc rivers in disguise :suspicious: Task | Responsible Parties | Regular Season Sims | Theodore Duncan | Playoff Sims | billy | Rule Changes & Interpretation | Popular Vote (16 total votes needed) | Roster Page | Stuff The Magic Dragon, Yeezy | Passing Trades | Trade Committee | Billy Bucks | billy | Casino | Yeezy, Paul Pierce | Player Agents | Allan Houston, Brian Scalabrine, DJ Jazzy Jeff, Pete Maravich, Justin Timberlake, Brown Cobb IV, Paul Pierce, Steve Jobs, @shaq? | Ratings Committee | ??? |
Ratings moving forward will have to decided by ya'll, that's the stickler eh. This is all just a suggestion, if you guys want me to step aside completely, I'm more than fine with that. Otherwise I'd be more than happy to help with the player agents/ratings and post playoff sims as long as long as there is someone else to handle the people that complain about them . If you guys like this framework, then really all thats to be decided is if all the PAs are staying on from last year, and who would be on the trade committee. I suggest giving preference to older GMs who want to do something (as their experience makes their input invaluable when problems arise), but it's also really important to let enthusiastic young GMs participate as well!
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Nino Brown
Cleveland Cavaliers
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Post by Nino Brown on Feb 23, 2019 9:01:32 GMT -5
I’ll volunteer to be on the ratings committee 😊
See what happens when we work together guys, progress is fun!
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Shaq O'Neal
LA Clippers
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Post by Shaq O'Neal on Feb 23, 2019 9:04:04 GMT -5
Hey guys, Even though my retirement was a bit abrupt, I want to do this handover in the correct fashion. For the health of the league and fairness to all involved. While I no longer have the gumption to run the day-to-day activities of the league, I'm still interested in 720 being a great place to be, and everyone here having a great time. I've been incredibly impressed at all the GMs, old and new, that have stepped up and volunteered to do different parts of the league. However, I worry without a rigid power structure in place and without someone (or a group of someone's) to defer to, every major decision might be met with consternation. Because of this I figured I'd list out who does what, and with these suggestions in place could provide a stable path for the league to move forward. While most of my problems with being commish have come from the stress of having to deal with personal conflict, and the lack of time, I feel like it's possible for me to maintain some roles and not really aggravate any of those issues. There have been lots of advantages this season to having a commissioner that doesn't own a team themselves, and I don't see any reason to throw that away. Also, I just won't give up the @ admin account, because that gives people the ability to delete the league. We don't know who could be doc rivers in disguise :suspicious: Task | Responsible Parties | Regular Season Sims | Theodore Duncan | Playoff Sims | billy | Rule Changes & Interpretation | Popular Vote (16 total votes needed) | Roster Page | Stuff The Magic Dragon, Yeezy | Passing Trades | Trade Committee | Billy Bucks | billy | Casino | Yeezy, Paul Pierce | Player Agents | Allan Houston, Brian Scalabrine, DJ Jazzy Jeff, Pete Maravich, Justin Timberlake, Brown Cobb IV, Paul Pierce, Steve Jobs, @shaq? | Ratings Committee | ??? |
Ratings moving forward will have to decided by ya'll, that's the stickler eh. This is all just a suggestion, if you guys want me to step aside completely, I'm more than fine with that. Otherwise I'd be more than happy to help with the player agents/ratings and post playoff sims as long as long as there is someone else to handle the people that complain about them . If you guys like this framework, then really all thats to be decided is if all the PAs are staying on from last year, and who would be on the trade committee. I suggest giving preference to older GMs who want to do something (as their experience makes their input invaluable when problems arise), but it's also really important to let enthusiastic young GMs participate as well! I vote Allan for rule changes and interpretation if he has the time for it as i feel he is well versed with the existing rules
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Shaq O'Neal
LA Clippers
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Post by Shaq O'Neal on Feb 23, 2019 9:07:25 GMT -5
I volunteer to be a PA and to be on the TC
Although i am new i feel like i can handle these tasks as Steve and Theo have informed me how PA works
I have seen the functioning of the TC from the archive too.
Also i dont want a select group of GMs to get overburdened as they have taken on additional tasks so i feel like i can relieve them of the PA and TC duties
Yes i am new but i feel i will learn the working well and fast and well i have got to start at a particular point of time right?
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billy
Miami Heat
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Post by billy on Feb 23, 2019 9:11:56 GMT -5
I volunteer to be on trade committee I think theres a rule somewhere that you have to have a positive accepted-rejected trades ratio as a GM to apply to be on the committee
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2019 9:13:34 GMT -5
Lol ok well if you need my help anywhere im more than willing 👌
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Shaq O'Neal
LA Clippers
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Post by Shaq O'Neal on Feb 23, 2019 9:16:08 GMT -5
Hey guys, Even though my retirement was a bit abrupt, I want to do this handover in the correct fashion. For the health of the league and fairness to all involved. While I no longer have the gumption to run the day-to-day activities of the league, I'm still interested in 720 being a great place to be, and everyone here having a great time. I've been incredibly impressed at all the GMs, old and new, that have stepped up and volunteered to do different parts of the league. However, I worry without a rigid power structure in place and without someone (or a group of someone's) to defer to, every major decision might be met with consternation. Because of this I figured I'd list out who does what, and with these suggestions in place could provide a stable path for the league to move forward. While most of my problems with being commish have come from the stress of having to deal with personal conflict, and the lack of time, I feel like it's possible for me to maintain some roles and not really aggravate any of those issues. There have been lots of advantages this season to having a commissioner that doesn't own a team themselves, and I don't see any reason to throw that away. Also, I just won't give up the @ admin account, because that gives people the ability to delete the league. We don't know who could be doc rivers in disguise Task | Responsible Parties | Regular Season Sims | Theodore Duncan | Playoff Sims | billy | Rule Changes & Interpretation | Popular Vote (16 total votes needed) | Roster Page | Stuff The Magic Dragon , Yeezy | Passing Trades | Trade Committee | Billy Bucks | billy | Casino | Yeezy , Paul Pierce | Player Agents | Allan Houston , Brian Scalabrine , DJ Jazzy Jeff , Pete Maravich , Justin Timberlake , Brown Cobb IV , Paul Pierce , Steve Jobs , @shaq? | Ratings Committee | ??? |
Ratings moving forward will have to decided by ya'll, that's the stickler eh. This is all just a suggestion, if you guys want me to step aside completely, I'm more than fine with that. Otherwise I'd be more than happy to help with the player agents/ratings and post playoff sims as long as long as there is someone else to handle the people that complain about them . If you guys like this framework, then really all thats to be decided is if all the PAs are staying on from last year, and who would be on the trade committee. I suggest giving preference to older GMs who want to do something (as their experience makes their input invaluable when problems arise), but it's also really important to let enthusiastic young GMs participate as well! One problem that i have with having the TC is that i have seen that the TC were a bit rigid and restricted the freedom of GMs Instead of that ,I personally liked how billy passed trades even if one team was winning it but it wasnt franchise ruining.I feel that the TC should also adopt the same approach,that is,to accept a trade unless its franchise ruining or involves a bad team getting a very low value back on a good asset
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Paul Pierce
Chicago Bulls
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Post by Paul Pierce on Feb 23, 2019 9:20:09 GMT -5
I've been a PA before so I'm down to do it again if needed. The casino is sort of an easy task so I'd like to help out more if people need me to fill a roll.
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Post by Stuff The Magic Dragon on Feb 23, 2019 10:21:32 GMT -5
I agree that Allan Houston should be the one to make rule changes and interpret them. He's well-respected around the league and he's eloquent. He suits the bill! Okay, I'll do the roster page. But please, read the rules people! I think if a GM is part of the TC, he cannot be a PA. This is to lessen the load on the GM and streamline the job around the league, this can help with the league activity, especially during the offseason. Also, just wanna put it out there, I don't want to be part of the TC as I am not competent to be part of it.
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Pete Maravich
Washington Wizards
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Post by Pete Maravich on Feb 23, 2019 10:29:40 GMT -5
I am down to for PA &/or TC roles. I’m generally ok with giving a long leash on trades though. Thanks to all for putting this back together. I would hate to lose this league.
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Ben Wallace
Detroit Pistons
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Post by Ben Wallace on Feb 23, 2019 11:41:19 GMT -5
Thanks for stepping up everyone
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Post by Penny Hardaway on Feb 23, 2019 12:56:39 GMT -5
Dont have much free time, but I can help with Overseeing active and inactive gms and recruiting new gms , waiting list etc
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Scott Pilgrim
Philadelphia 76ers
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Post by Scott Pilgrim on Feb 23, 2019 19:00:48 GMT -5
I would be willing to work with Nino Brown on ratings
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Allan Houston
New York Knicks
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Post by Allan Houston on Feb 23, 2019 19:40:06 GMT -5
I'd be happy to construct or interpret the rules. I can probably also continue to PA during the offseason
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Steve Jobs
Oklahoma City Thunder
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Post by Steve Jobs on Feb 23, 2019 20:13:15 GMT -5
I was already pretty much acting TC, PA, and Ratings committee (though obviously this was prior to TC and Ratings committee changing a bit), and I’d be happy to keep doing all those things.
Also, like I said in the trade threads, I don’t mind taking over the trade role Billy was doing if we want to stick with that instead of a TC, but if we’re building up a TC again I’m down to be on it.
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Post by Penny Hardaway on Feb 23, 2019 22:35:20 GMT -5
My official title
Penny - Personnel / HR Manager
I'll get a GM Check In posted by tommorow, then I'll work on inactive gms and check up on people on waiting list and eventually do some recruiting on nba forums , reddit , etc.
Btw
All complaints about other gms or possible rules needing change can come through my PM box but make sure you put " *GSW Issue *#3" as the subject,if I can handle the problem ill do so , if not ill bring it up to the appropriate person, a.k.a Houston to decide.
* change tonyour team name and issue number
Also send all new recruits my way , so I can better acclaim them with how long the waiting period will be , what open teams , etc
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billy
Miami Heat
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Post by billy on Feb 24, 2019 9:23:10 GMT -5
If anyone listed as a player agent needs access to the PA forum, or anyone who has to move/edit/post threads needs staff powers let me know.
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Post by Stuff The Magic Dragon on Feb 24, 2019 9:24:43 GMT -5
If anyone listed as a player agent needs access to the PA forum, or anyone who has to move/edit/post threads needs staff powers let me know. can I have access to delete the league?
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billy
Miami Heat
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Post by billy on Feb 25, 2019 10:30:00 GMT -5
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Shaq O'Neal
LA Clippers
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Post by Shaq O'Neal on Feb 25, 2019 10:30:37 GMT -5
I agree to this .Should i start voting ?
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billy
Miami Heat
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Post by billy on Feb 25, 2019 10:31:53 GMT -5
I agree to this .Should i start voting ? I wouldn't until everyone agrees that this is the TC
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Shaq O'Neal
LA Clippers
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Post by Shaq O'Neal on Feb 25, 2019 10:32:59 GMT -5
Any guidelines that i should follow as member of TC except for not voting on trades that might benefit/harm me?
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billy
Miami Heat
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Post by billy on Feb 25, 2019 10:33:46 GMT -5
We also need up to 3 alternates in case someone is involved in the trade. And technically I guess we might need 5 alternates because we've seen 5 team trades here. Brian ScalabrineScott PilgrimJustin Timberlakewould want to be alternates? Trying to spread out the love here. Don't see a big reason to double up people like Theo, Yeezy, PP, Stuff etc with work unless we don't have enough other capable volunteers.
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Shaq O'Neal
LA Clippers
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Post by Shaq O'Neal on Feb 25, 2019 10:43:55 GMT -5
I had some questions regarding the TC
1.How many accepts or rejects does a trade need?
2.If there is no decision formed ,is there a time limit after which the trade will be passed/voided?
3.Is GM reasoning required while posting a trade?
4.Any other guidelines?
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billy
Miami Heat
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Post by billy on Feb 25, 2019 10:47:20 GMT -5
I had some questions regarding the TC 1.How many accepts or rejects does a trade need? 2.If there is no decision formed ,is there a time limit after which the trade will be passed/voided? 3.Is GM reasoning required while posting a trade? 4.Any other guidelines? the way we did it in the past was basically: 1. majority 2. if there was no majority after a certain number of days it went to a league-wide vote where every gm had a vote 3. it was in the past (i personally like a more 'optional reasoning' method where reasoning only needs given if the trade seems vetoable) 4. if youre talking about dealing with trades where you may benefit from a side, or where you were maybe engaged in trade negotiations with the gms involved, you should recuse yourself (or not vote) to be honorable but thats just how we did it in the past
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Shaq O'Neal
LA Clippers
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Post by Shaq O'Neal on Feb 25, 2019 10:50:30 GMT -5
I had some questions regarding the TC 1.How many accepts or rejects does a trade need? 2.If there is no decision formed ,is there a time limit after which the trade will be passed/voided? 3.Is GM reasoning required while posting a trade? 4.Any other guidelines? the way we did it in the past was basically: 1. majority 2. if there was no majority after a certain number of days it went to a league-wide vote where every gm had a vote 3. it was in the past (i personally like a more 'optional reasoning' method where reasoning only needs given if the trade seems vetoable) 4. if youre talking about dealing with trades where you may benefit from a side, or where you were maybe engaged in trade negotiations with the gms involved, you should recuse yourself (or not vote) to be honorable but thats just how we did it in the past Seems good enough to me and i agree only on the optional reasoning part as GMs should not have to speak out their plans unless it is extremely needed
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Shaq O'Neal
LA Clippers
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Post by Shaq O'Neal on Feb 25, 2019 11:41:26 GMT -5
Had another query looking at past trades
It was mandatory for TC to give reasons for accept/reject so is it mandatory even for really small trades?
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Theodore Duncan
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Post by Theodore Duncan on Feb 25, 2019 11:47:53 GMT -5
We also need up to 3 alternates in case someone is involved in the trade. And technically I guess we might need 5 alternates because we've seen 5 team trades here. Brian Scalabrine Scott Pilgrim Justin Timberlake would want to be alternates? Trying to spread out the love here. Don't see a big reason to double up people like Theo, Yeezy, PP, Stuff etc with work unless we don't have enough other capable volunteers. I can be alternative. no problem
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Post by Ron Artest(1x Champ) on Feb 25, 2019 18:03:22 GMT -5
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Feb 25, 2019 21:40:52 GMT -5
I'm down my dudes
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