Nino Brown
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Post by Nino Brown on May 25, 2020 19:32:58 GMT -5
Accept, Bam looks like a legit difference maker at Center, and the picks plus Oladipo make this a good return for NOP
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Allan Houston
New York Knicks
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Post by Allan Houston on May 25, 2020 19:38:47 GMT -5
Fair. I was looking at the one from the day before. And I probably would take that deal if I was going to lose AD for nothing. I told Ed as much.
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Allan Houston
New York Knicks
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Post by Allan Houston on May 25, 2020 19:45:44 GMT -5
Here's a thing I haven't seen anyone mention yet:
If our trade deadline is when a team clinches playoffs, and we're following the NBA's lead regarding the rest of the season, then the NBA could easily make an announcement tomorrow (season's over, regular season's over, 70 game season, etc.) that kills the trade market here and leaves expirings stranded.
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billy
Miami Heat
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Post by billy on May 25, 2020 19:48:44 GMT -5
Here's a thing I haven't seen anyone mention yet: If our trade deadline is when a team clinches playoffs, and we're following the NBA's lead regarding the rest of the season, then the NBA could easily make an announcement tomorrow (season's over, regular season's over, 70 game season, etc.) that kills the trade market here and leaves expirings stranded. I thought this was the reason for all the trade activity.
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Steve Jobs
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Post by Steve Jobs on May 25, 2020 19:55:01 GMT -5
Here's a thing I haven't seen anyone mention yet: If our trade deadline is when a team clinches playoffs, and we're following the NBA's lead regarding the rest of the season, then the NBA could easily make an announcement tomorrow (season's over, regular season's over, 70 game season, etc.) that kills the trade market here and leaves expirings stranded. Season continues as normal won our vote, I don’t think anything the league announces changes our trade deadline.
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Allan Houston
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Post by Allan Houston on May 25, 2020 20:09:39 GMT -5
My interpretation was that this was the final word (which all option 1 and 2 voters would support, thereby an 11-9 win). In fact, you seconded.
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billy
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Post by billy on May 25, 2020 20:43:48 GMT -5
The interpretation is that we are suspending the season and waiting to see what the NBA does. Once it is revealed, we will have another poll on what to do. But if the NBA decides to enter straight into the playoffs, it is a possibility we would do the same thing, which would obviously end regular season trading. Depends on the outcome of a poll, and a little bit of commissioner discretion.
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John Stockton
Atlanta Hawks
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Post by John Stockton on May 25, 2020 21:11:29 GMT -5
good memories. i want frank reynolds back.
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Paul Pierce
Chicago Bulls
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Post by Paul Pierce on May 25, 2020 21:21:44 GMT -5
good memories. i want frank reynolds back. he was a goon
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Steve Jobs
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Post by Steve Jobs on May 25, 2020 21:34:23 GMT -5
My interpretation was that this was the final word (which all option 1 and 2 voters would support, thereby an 11-9 win). In fact, you seconded. I seconded pausing our season until the NBA responded and then having a vote for how we’d proceed, but the 9 “continue as normal” + 4 “suspend, but continue season eventually” crowds are the two that give an indication for how that vote for proceeding with the season will roll, as that 4+9 outnumbers the 7 that said “follow the NBA exactly” by a wider margin that the 4+7 beat the 9.
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Post by Stuff The Magic Dragon on May 25, 2020 22:06:19 GMT -5
Gonna accept this deal for Ed. Honestly think Dipo can return to his All-Star form with a few more reps plus it takes time to gel with backcourt duo, Brogdon. Bam has been a revelation this year, there are stats that doesn’t show in the box scores and he can be the JJJ of Ja in D720. Let’s also not forget that AD only played more than 68 games twice in his 8-year career. And playing through an injury in prolonged period of time might hit him back as he grow older, he’s fragile and a bitch.
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Ben Wallace
Detroit Pistons
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Post by Ben Wallace on May 25, 2020 23:03:50 GMT -5
Gonna accept this deal for Ed. Honestly think Dipo can return to his All-Star form with a few more reps plus it takes time to gel with backcourt duo, Brogdon. Bam has been a revelation this year, there are stats that doesn’t show in the box scores and he can be the JJJ of Ja in D720. Let’s also not forget that AD only played more than 68 games twice in his 8-year career. And playing through an injury in prolonged period of time might hit him back as he grow older, he’s fragile and a bitch.The only important part, didn't need to write the rest man
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Jackie Kong
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Post by Jackie Kong on May 25, 2020 23:12:54 GMT -5
Stuff The Magic Dragon Imagine for a moment if you got Davis to play with Durant. You could have changed your team's name to the Orlando Cupcakes and get over with it. Plus, I bet they do make some good cupcakes in Orlando so it probably would have made for sense than the Utah Jazz.
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Scott Pilgrim
Philadelphia 76ers
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Post by Scott Pilgrim on May 26, 2020 0:17:00 GMT -5
Was actually thinking Hawks were overpaying in this trade for Davis LOL, guess I disagree with Steve wholeheartedly then.
Bam is a stud. Oladipo will come back to all-star form on such as good contract. 2 1sts, one being in a most likely double draft is good.
Let's all face it, Davis was going to leave NOP unless they made a great run in the playoffs. They're getting quite a haul instead of getting nothing.
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Ed Cooley
New Orleans Pelicans
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Post by Ed Cooley on May 26, 2020 0:42:48 GMT -5
should note I will be waiving Lin upon arrival
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Post by Stuff The Magic Dragon on May 26, 2020 0:44:17 GMT -5
Gonna accept this deal for Ed. Honestly think Dipo can return to his All-Star form with a few more reps plus it takes time to gel with backcourt duo, Brogdon. Bam has been a revelation this year, there are stats that doesn’t show in the box scores and he can be the JJJ of Ja in D720. Let’s also not forget that AD only played more than 68 games twice in his 8-year career. And playing through an injury in prolonged period of time might hit him back as he grow older, he’s fragile and a bitch.The only important part, didn't need to write the rest man no chill Ben, give him an intro lol
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on May 26, 2020 1:18:27 GMT -5
should note I will be waiving Lin upon arrival Believe you have to waive someone before the trade goes through if I remember correctly
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Theodore Duncan
Portland Trail Blazers
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Post by Theodore Duncan on May 26, 2020 3:29:35 GMT -5
Wtf is happening here. I was not tagged although am also TC. Gonna reply on this later today after I'm off work
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John Stockton
Atlanta Hawks
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Post by John Stockton on May 26, 2020 6:22:07 GMT -5
should note I will be waiving Lin upon arrival Believe you have to waive someone before the trade goes through if I remember correctly no he doesn't
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Theodore Duncan
Portland Trail Blazers
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Post by Theodore Duncan on May 26, 2020 6:27:36 GMT -5
Was actually thinking Hawks were overpaying in this trade for Davis LOL, guess I disagree with Steve wholeheartedly then. Bam is a stud. Oladipo will come back to all-star form on such as good contract. 2 1sts, one being in a most likely double draft is good. Let's all face it, Davis was going to leave NOP unless they made a great run in the playoffs. They're getting quite a haul instead of getting nothing. This is my first impression also. I think Hawks are giving slightly too much here, but in order to make these kind of trades work, I guess it's necessary.
Probably John has done his due diligence with simming, but I'm not sure if in the sim Davis offers more production than combination of Bam, Dipo and Bog. In NBA it's different as it's easier to build a strategy around abusing mismatches by superstars.
Bam is absolutely a deserving all-star. Over 5 assists he is putting per game as center is nothing to ignore, and most of the time he is basically playing the main facilitator for Heat, while being one of the best big man defenders.
If you look at players averaging over 15pts / 10reb / 5ast / 1.2blk / 1.2stl it's a very short list of MVPs/multiple all-stars
Obviously he needs to get better at scoring to rise to level of everyone else on that list, but dude is only 22 with in a super cheap contract for next year.
Getting extra time to recover for Dipo is also good, no reason to doubt that he can become at least fringe all-star level again.
Personally as Pels I would have rather taken Bogdan instead of the late 2020 1st round pick as Bog's contract would have matched perfectly with Bam's Free Agency, but I guess that's just personal preference
Looks like everyone got what they wanted.
Accept from me.
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John Stockton
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Post by John Stockton on May 26, 2020 6:28:19 GMT -5
Wtf is happening here. I was not tagged although am also TC. Gonna reply on this later today after I'm off work sorry I copy pasted the TC list from our trade so I missed ya
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Post by Stuff The Magic Dragon on May 26, 2020 8:18:29 GMT -5
I can see a Big 3 forming in Atlanta. They'll have another Max slot if they can re-sign AD. 2 if they don't.
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Scott Pilgrim
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Post by Scott Pilgrim on May 26, 2020 9:12:58 GMT -5
I can see a Big 3 forming in Atlanta. They'll have another Max slot if they can re-sign AD. 2 if they don't. I'm not sure that'll happen because of Derozan and Redicks player options.
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Post by Stuff The Magic Dragon on May 26, 2020 9:18:55 GMT -5
I can see a Big 3 forming in Atlanta. They'll have another Max slot if they can re-sign AD. 2 if they don't. I'm not sure that'll happen because of Derozan and Redicks player options. lol forgot about that trade. Guess DeRozan is their 3rd man.
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on May 26, 2020 10:52:11 GMT -5
Believe you have to waive someone before the trade goes through if I remember correctly no he doesn't "No team must exceed more than 15 players in their lineup. If a trade means that a team does exceed this limit, they must first release a player before the deal can be completed." - that there's the rulebook. Lin was just signed, right? Can't waive him yet anyway
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Theodore Duncan
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Post by Theodore Duncan on May 26, 2020 11:05:51 GMT -5
"No team must exceed more than 15 players in their lineup. If a trade means that a team does exceed this limit, they must first release a player before the deal can be completed." - that there's the rulebook. Lin was just signed, right? Can't waive him yet anyway I think after Derozan trade there are enough roster spots
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Steve Jobs
Oklahoma City Thunder
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Post by Steve Jobs on May 26, 2020 13:17:18 GMT -5
"No team must exceed more than 15 players in their lineup. If a trade means that a team does exceed this limit, they must first release a player before the deal can be completed." - that there's the rulebook. Lin was just signed, right? Can't waive him yet anyway We’ve always allowed conditional waiving as part of the trade since if it doesn’t go through it’d be pretty shit to have had to cut a player for nothing.
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on May 26, 2020 16:45:01 GMT -5
"No team must exceed more than 15 players in their lineup. If a trade means that a team does exceed this limit, they must first release a player before the deal can be completed." - that there's the rulebook. Lin was just signed, right? Can't waive him yet anyway We’ve always allowed conditional waiving as part of the trade since if it doesn’t go through it’d be pretty shit to have had to cut a player for nothing. But we allow conditional waiving of a player we're receiving in the deal? Don't see why we'd allow that. Maybe I'm remembering wrong or we changed our tune on that, but as I recall there can't be a theoretical moment that you have more than 15 players. In any case, Lin can't be waived bc he was just signed.
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Steve Jobs
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Post by Steve Jobs on May 26, 2020 16:51:03 GMT -5
We’ve always allowed conditional waiving as part of the trade since if it doesn’t go through it’d be pretty shit to have had to cut a player for nothing. But we allow conditional waiving of a player we're receiving in the deal? Don't see why we'd allow that. Maybe I'm remembering wrong or we changed our tune on that, but as I recall there can't be a theoretical moment that you have more than 15 players. In any case, Lin can't be waived bc he was just signed. Yeah, no that’s true. You can’t waive a player you’re getting, just one you already have on the roster.
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Yeezy
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Post by Yeezy on May 26, 2020 18:13:02 GMT -5
Oops. ATL / DAL deal posted, then ATL / NOP will use dead contracts instead of Lin.
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