Shaq O'Neal
LA Clippers
Posts: 1,897
Likes: 627
Total Bank: 93,509
|
LAC-HOU
Oct 5, 2020 21:06:23 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by Shaq O'Neal on Oct 5, 2020 21:06:23 GMT -5
*To be queued untill draft day and will go through after LAC-TOR*
Clippers trade
Clint Capela $19,780,000 $21,263,500 Outgoing salary=$19,780,000
Rockets trade
Markieff Morris dead money $9,000,000 Isaiah Thomas dead money $9,675,000 Bruno Caboclo dead money $1,018,690 HOU 2024 1st HOU 2024 2nd
Outgoing salary=19,693,690(125% of 19,693,690=24,617,112.5)
|
|
Shaq O'Neal
LA Clippers
Posts: 1,897
Likes: 627
Total Bank: 93,509
|
LAC-HOU
Oct 5, 2020 21:07:25 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by Shaq O'Neal on Oct 5, 2020 21:07:25 GMT -5
Penny Hardaway to accept and create a waiving thread for Markieff Morris
|
|
|
Post by Stuff The Magic Dragon on Oct 5, 2020 21:14:21 GMT -5
I don’t think you can trade the 2024 picks if you’re using the 2019-2020 salaries. We can only trade up to 4 years for picks.
|
|
Shaq O'Neal
LA Clippers
Posts: 1,897
Likes: 627
Total Bank: 93,509
|
LAC-HOU
Oct 5, 2020 21:18:25 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by Shaq O'Neal on Oct 5, 2020 21:18:25 GMT -5
I don’t think you can trade the 2024 picks if you’re using the 2019-2020 salaries. We can only trade up to 4 years for picks. I asked Billy in PMs about it and he said it is allowed
|
|
|
LAC-HOU
Oct 5, 2020 21:55:52 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by Stuff The Magic Dragon on Oct 5, 2020 21:55:52 GMT -5
I don’t think you can trade the 2024 picks if you’re using the 2019-2020 salaries. We can only trade up to 4 years for picks. I asked Billy in PMs about it and he said it is allowed but the rules clearly stated it. Dynasty 720's Trading Regulations.Trading of draft picks is allowed up to a maximum of four years in the future. First round picks may not be traded in consecutive years.
|
|
Shaq O'Neal
LA Clippers
Posts: 1,897
Likes: 627
Total Bank: 93,509
|
LAC-HOU
Oct 5, 2020 22:00:49 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by Shaq O'Neal on Oct 5, 2020 22:00:49 GMT -5
I asked Billy in PMs about it and he said it is allowed but the rules clearly stated it. Dynasty 720's Trading Regulations.Trading of draft picks is allowed up to a maximum of four years in the future. First round picks may not be traded in consecutive years. He said that the pick can be traded after we have made our pick in this year's draft.Since the contracts roll over on day 1 of FA,a draft day deal using 2024 picks and 19-20 salaries works
|
|
|
LAC-HOU
Oct 5, 2020 22:05:38 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by Stuff The Magic Dragon on Oct 5, 2020 22:05:38 GMT -5
but the rules clearly stated it. He said that the pick can be traded after we have made our pick in this year's draft.Since the contracts roll over on day 1 of FA,a draft day deal using 2024 picks and 19-20 salaries works technically it don’t. That’s 5 years in the future using the 19-20 salaries.
|
|
Shaq O'Neal
LA Clippers
Posts: 1,897
Likes: 627
Total Bank: 93,509
|
LAC-HOU
Oct 5, 2020 22:07:22 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by Shaq O'Neal on Oct 5, 2020 22:07:22 GMT -5
I guess his logic is after the 2020 picks have been done,the draft pick four years ahead would be the 2024 picks
|
|
|
LAC-HOU
Oct 5, 2020 22:09:00 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by Penny Hardaway on Oct 5, 2020 22:09:00 GMT -5
Houston accepts , as long as we can resign him a 1st is about the right price for him. Gives us a year to show him what we will be building before contract negotiations.
|
|
Shaq O'Neal
LA Clippers
Posts: 1,897
Likes: 627
Total Bank: 93,509
|
LAC-HOU
Oct 5, 2020 22:11:20 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by Shaq O'Neal on Oct 5, 2020 22:11:20 GMT -5
|
|
Shaq O'Neal
LA Clippers
Posts: 1,897
Likes: 627
Total Bank: 93,509
|
LAC-HOU
Oct 5, 2020 22:11:36 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by Shaq O'Neal on Oct 5, 2020 22:11:36 GMT -5
Also billy for the legality of the trade
|
|
|
LAC-HOU
Oct 5, 2020 23:13:44 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by Stuff The Magic Dragon on Oct 5, 2020 23:13:44 GMT -5
I guess his logic is after the 2020 picks have been done,the draft pick four years ahead would be the 2024 picks if such is so, then we’re technically using the 20-21 salary since the draftees were drafted for the 20-21 season.
|
|
Theodore Duncan
Portland Trail Blazers
Posts: 1,636
Likes: 1,414
Total Bank: 57,500
|
Post by Theodore Duncan on Oct 6, 2020 3:32:47 GMT -5
Yeah, if the trade is waiting until season rolls over, then you should not be able to use anymore the past years salaries.
Edit. How I see it that if you have expiring dead money for example, you have to use it before the trade deadline of the current season. If you don't then you lose it. Since when the trading is opened again, it's after the season has ended and we have rolled over to next one.
So in any queued should only use salaries from the following season, not a mix of both
|
|
Shaq O'Neal
LA Clippers
Posts: 1,897
Likes: 627
Total Bank: 93,509
|
Post by Shaq O'Neal on Oct 6, 2020 5:52:50 GMT -5
dynasty720.proboards.com/thread/6945/phi-torI might be wrong but I think this trade used 18-19 salaries and had a 2023 pick involved.This was definitely after the draft since you can see DR of Tacko Fall.I am not sure if this trade used 18-19 salaries since it has not been mentioned but seeing Gerald Green $1,018,690 on Milwaukee's roster for 19-20 so that suggests the trade used 18-19 salaries.Plus I did not find any Gerald Green dead money on anyone's 19-20 roster(could be wrong since I just had a brief look at the rosters) so that would mean he did not get cut and re-signed as far as I checked.
|
|
Shaq O'Neal
LA Clippers
Posts: 1,897
Likes: 627
Total Bank: 93,509
|
Post by Shaq O'Neal on Oct 6, 2020 5:56:46 GMT -5
dynasty720.proboards.com/thread/6945/phi-torI might be wrong but I think this trade used 18-19 salaries and had a 2023 pick involved.This was definitely after the draft since you can see DR of Tacko Fall.I am not sure if this trade used 18-19 salaries since it has not been mentioned but seeing Gerald Green $1,018,690 on Milwaukee's roster for 19-20 so that suggests the trade used 18-19 salaries.Plus I did not find any Gerald Green dead money on anyone's 19-20 roster(could be wrong since I just had a brief look at the rosters) so that would mean he did not get cut and re-signed as far as I checked. dynasty720.proboards.com/thread/7238/det-dal-phiAfter this^ I am pretty sure that the PHI-TOR trade had 18-19 salaries.
|
|
billy
Miami Heat
Posts: 7,174
Likes: 6,145
Total Bank: 3,050
|
Post by billy on Oct 6, 2020 6:29:44 GMT -5
Shaq is right here its a consequence of the way our logistics work. After the draft there exists a time where you can trade the future pick but the new salaries aren't rolled over until FA begins.
|
|
|
LAC-HOU
Oct 6, 2020 6:56:50 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by Stuff The Magic Dragon on Oct 6, 2020 6:56:50 GMT -5
So technically we're allowed to move up to five years in the future between the playoffs and free agency
|
|
billy
Miami Heat
Posts: 7,174
Likes: 6,145
Total Bank: 3,050
|
Post by billy on Oct 6, 2020 8:27:16 GMT -5
So technically we're allowed to move up to five years in the future between the playoffs and free agency If thats how you have to think of it, sure
|
|
Yeezy
Dallas Mavericks
Posts: 1,221
Likes: 737
Total Bank: 63,648
|
Post by Yeezy on Oct 6, 2020 8:37:32 GMT -5
approve
|
|
Nino Brown
Cleveland Cavaliers
Posts: 444
Likes: 239
Total Bank: 55,600
|
LAC-HOU
Oct 6, 2020 8:42:09 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by Nino Brown on Oct 6, 2020 8:42:09 GMT -5
Accept
|
|
Ed Cooley
New Orleans Pelicans
Posts: 310
Likes: 160
Total Bank: 65,000
|
Post by Ed Cooley on Oct 6, 2020 9:06:07 GMT -5
I still find the dead money trading thing weird in the off-season; I think this is valid because the Caboclo contract would still technically be there when this goes through but I’m not positive.
If so, I’m hesitant to accept this because if Penny leaves again then it will be a tough sell to get a new GM to pick up a team with no future assets. No offense intended Penny, just stating what I think is a possibility
|
|
|
LAC-HOU
Oct 6, 2020 9:50:54 GMT -5
via mobile
billy likes this
Post by Penny Hardaway on Oct 6, 2020 9:50:54 GMT -5
I still find the dead money trading thing weird in the off-season; I think this is valid because the Caboclo contract would still technically be there when this goes through but I’m not positive. If so, I’m hesitant to accept this because if Penny leaves again then it will be a tough sell to get a new GM to pick up a team with no future assets. No offense intended Penny, just stating what I think is a possibility You mean kicked out again? Never left nor will i ever.. And our team still has picks before 2024 and well be competing again by then.
|
|
billy
Miami Heat
Posts: 7,174
Likes: 6,145
Total Bank: 3,050
|
Post by billy on Oct 6, 2020 10:39:43 GMT -5
I still find the dead money trading thing weird in the off-season; I think this is valid because the Caboclo contract would still technically be there when this goes through but I’m not positive. If so, I’m hesitant to accept this because if Penny leaves again then it will be a tough sell to get a new GM to pick up a team with no future assets. No offense intended Penny, just stating what I think is a possibility I'd consider Penny one of the more committed GMs in the league. The dude literally evades bans and lies about it just so he can get some of that hot D720 action.
|
|
Ed Cooley
New Orleans Pelicans
Posts: 310
Likes: 160
Total Bank: 65,000
|
Post by Ed Cooley on Oct 6, 2020 11:02:46 GMT -5
I still find the dead money trading thing weird in the off-season; I think this is valid because the Caboclo contract would still technically be there when this goes through but I’m not positive. If so, I’m hesitant to accept this because if Penny leaves again then it will be a tough sell to get a new GM to pick up a team with no future assets. No offense intended Penny, just stating what I think is a possibility I'd consider Penny one of the more committed GMs in the league. The dude literally evades bans and lies about it just so he can get some of that hot D720 action. This is true. I’m all for trading action too, I just hope there is enough for Houston past the expiration of the contracts on his book. I will accept
|
|
Jackie Kong
Posts: 2,287
Likes: 2,077
Total Bank: 76,050
|
Post by Jackie Kong on Oct 6, 2020 12:57:46 GMT -5
Stuff The Magic Dragon Just want to note that if any of these picks go missing in the Draft Rights page I will blame you. lololol.
|
|
|
Post by Penny Hardaway on Oct 6, 2020 15:29:40 GMT -5
I still find the dead money trading thing weird in the off-season; I think this is valid because the Caboclo contract would still technically be there when this goes through but I’m not positive. If so, I’m hesitant to accept this because if Penny leaves again then it will be a tough sell to get a new GM to pick up a team with no future assets. No offense intended Penny, just stating what I think is a possibility I'd consider Penny one of the more committed GMs in the league. The dude literally evades bans and lies about it just so he can get some of that hot D720 action. I also like to give it to.. I go both ways.
|
|
|
LAC-HOU
Oct 9, 2020 7:24:17 GMT -5
via mobile
Yeezy likes this
Post by Stuff The Magic Dragon on Oct 9, 2020 7:24:17 GMT -5
Classic Penny move. Trading away the team’s future and blaming the league for its demise.
|
|
|
LAC-HOU
Oct 9, 2020 7:25:19 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by Stuff The Magic Dragon on Oct 9, 2020 7:25:19 GMT -5
Accept anyway
|
|
|
Post by Penny Hardaway on Oct 9, 2020 9:45:30 GMT -5
Classic Penny move. Trading away the team’s future and blaming the league for its demise. Just like we proved we are here for the long haul the warriors future was going to be my problem just like Houston's future is our problem. Worry about your sorry team Maybe if you actually showed you could gm your opinions might have a little mert. This is Classic Stuff though on my nuts because he has nothing better to do even though his team has accomplished nothing but stay in limbo. I love the attention but sorry im married.
|
|
|
LAC-HOU
Oct 9, 2020 18:13:38 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by Stuff The Magic Dragon on Oct 9, 2020 18:13:38 GMT -5
Classic Penny move. Trading away the team’s future and blaming the league for its demise. Just like we proved we are here for the long haul the warriors future was going to be my problem just like Houston's future is our problem. Worry about your sorry team Maybe if you actually showed you could gm your opinions might have a little mert. This is Classic Stuff though on my nuts because he has nothing better to do even though his team has accomplished nothing but stay in limbo. I love the attention but sorry im married. you got more of that you smoking? You haven't accomplished anything yet as well cause you were dumb enough to get fired from your team.
|
|