DEN-MIN

[jameskay]

^{Denver Nuggets} trade:

Buddy Hield $3,703,955 $4,967,004

Paul Millsap $16,000,000 $16,000,000 $16,000,000

Noah Vonleh $4,911,300 $4,911,300

Glenn Robinson III $1,091,400 $2,182,800

Mike Muscala $1,091,400 $2,182,800

Outgoing Salary: $26,798,055

Incoming Salary: $28,462,500

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^{Minnesota Timberwolves} trade:

Kentavious Caldwell-Pope $28,462,500 $30,318,750

Pick 18

2021 Pick Swap

Outgoing Salary: $28,462,500

Incoming Salary: $26,798,055

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Still not completely sure about this trade, but I'm tired of having zero flexibility on the roster with zero picks and bloated contracts. Rather than pay Hield, I'm opting to take some some solid pick options and have two giant expirings before I have to pay Tatum.

[Deleted]

I accept

Really like hields 3 PT shooting, and the bench pieces I needed.

I know I have to pay buddy this off-season but that's fine for me bc I wasn't a player in free agency this year
Now with buddy's birds I get a player I like alot.

Dont think their will be much at 18 that can help me out this year either

Milsap contract sucks but maybe I'll get lucky and he'll retire if not I'll figure something out with him

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billy
Yeezy
Nino Brown
Stuff The Magic Dragon
Ed Cooley
Logan Hough

For Votes please

[Yeezy]

Not smart enough to know if those pick swaps are franchise ruining, anyone else? He has no picks left after this and his main pieces are:

Bledsoe, Nance, Hield, Millsap, Barnes, Kuzma. All on pretty meh contracts lol if KG hadn't just quit I'd prob accept but if this goes through and he quits again, new owner has zero picks and a bunch of players on bad contracts... I wouldn't put it past KG to sabotage a team on purpose.

[billy]

yeah why the fuck did KG spend weeks tearing his team down and trading for picks literally to just trade everything away again for no reason

[Deleted]

Nov 23, 2020 13:11:34 GMT -5 Yeezy said:

Not smart enough to know if those pick swaps are franchise ruining, anyone else? He has no picks left after this and his main pieces are:

Bledsoe, Nance, Hield, Millsap, Barnes, Kuzma. All on pretty meh contracts lol if KG hadn't just quit I'd prob accept but if this goes through and he quits again, new owner has zero picks and a bunch of players on bad contracts... I wouldn't put it past KG to sabotage a team on purpose.

What the hell are you talking about??
I've been here going on my 4th season and been a playoff team every single year!
I also don't have Kuzma anymore but Clint Capela, and I just drafted obi Toppin #5

Eric Bledsoe
Buddy hield
Harrison Barnes
Obi Toppin
Clint Capella
Larry Nance Jr

Yes real franchise ruining lmao

[Yeezy]

Nov 23, 2020 13:15:33 GMT -5 @joker said:

Nov 23, 2020 13:11:34 GMT -5 Yeezy said:

Not smart enough to know if those pick swaps are franchise ruining, anyone else? He has no picks left after this and his main pieces are:

Bledsoe, Nance, Hield, Millsap, Barnes, Kuzma. All on pretty meh contracts lol if KG hadn't just quit I'd prob accept but if this goes through and he quits again, new owner has zero picks and a bunch of players on bad contracts... I wouldn't put it past KG to sabotage a team on purpose.

What the hell are you talking about??
I've been here going on my 4th season and been a playoff team every single year!
I also don't have Kuzma anymore but Clint Capela, and I just drafted obi Toppin #5

Eric Bledsoe
Buddy hield
Harrison Barnes
Obi Toppin
Clint Capella
Larry Nance Jr

Yes real franchise ruining lmao

You literally have zero picks, you get one injury or two and you're fucked for years.

What the all am I talking about? You literally just quit like 2 months ago, no?

[Deleted]

Wow I took a break for like a month and I have no picks either way so if you think that's the issue whatever

[Yeezy]

Fine, approve, good luck

[Paul Pierce]

Nice deal Kay

[Deleted]

I lost this off-season

Russell Westbrook - old overpaid
Steven Adams - Regressing
Pick # 12 + #16 + #18
2024 Min 1st
Some swap options

For

Eric Bledsoe
Clint Capella
Buddy hield
Paul Milsap - old overpaid
Nice expiring depth
Pick #5 Obi Toppin

[Ron Artest(1x Champ)]

Nov 23, 2020 13:14:28 GMT -5 billy said:

yeah why the fuck did KG spend weeks tearing his team down and trading for picks literally to just trade everything away again for no reason

it’s KG, eventually he’s going to trade all of these players and rebuild again

[Theodore Duncan]

Nov 23, 2020 15:12:59 GMT -5 Ron Artest(1x Champ) said:

Nov 23, 2020 13:14:28 GMT -5 billy said:

yeah why the fuck did KG spend weeks tearing his team down and trading for picks literally to just trade everything away again for no reason

it’s KG, eventually he’s going to trade all of these players and rebuild again

I mean for half of the KG's trades, I'm thinking that why the hell he wants to take all these shitty players, you never get rid of them... and then he somehow flips the whole team again two months later. So no judging from me anymore :D

[Stuff The Magic Dragon]

Nov 23, 2020 13:15:33 GMT -5 @joker said:

Harrison Barnes

lmao

[Shaq O'Neal]

So I just realised that the 2023 option in this trade is invalid because MIN owes a top 8 protected-increasing conveyance pick to MIL in 2022.If the pick lands top 8,MIN owes a top 3 protected pick to MIL in 2023 which is why MIN cannot trade a swap option in 2023

[jameskay]

I think this is fine - can I just have the swap rights and if the pick doesn't convey in 2022 (lands top 8) then the rights are forfeit? I'm down to just have them as an option

[Ron Artest(1x Champ)]

Nov 24, 2020 11:50:14 GMT -5 jameskay said:

I think this is fine - can I just have the swap rights and if the pick doesn't convey in 2022 (lands top 8) then the rights are forfeit? I'm down to just have them as an option

it’s not fine if it’s illegal

[billy]

Nov 24, 2020 11:50:14 GMT -5 jameskay said:

I think this is fine - can I just have the swap rights and if the pick doesn't convey in 2022 (lands top 8) then the rights are forfeit? I'm down to just have them as an option

this is not a thing

[Shaq O'Neal]

Nov 24, 2020 11:50:14 GMT -5 jameskay said:

I think this is fine - can I just have the swap rights and if the pick doesn't convey in 2022 (lands top 8) then the rights are forfeit? I'm down to just have them as an option

I don't think you should be allowed to trade an asset you don't have and a conditional trade like this would set a horrible precedent.Such deals would be tough to keep track of too.

[jameskay]

dont really understand how it would set a horrible precedent or be that tough to keep track of. it seems to me its the same as a protection. MIL gets MIN's 2022 1st round pick if it falls 9-30. If not, it converts to a 2023 1st round pick with 1-3 protection. Here, it would be I get MIN's 2023 1st round pick if it isn't conveyed to MIL (if it falls 1-3). And if it's conveyed to MIL, I get nothing.

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billy

Looks like this trade will be void.
I forgot about the conveyance of the 2022 1st, My apologies to the TC.

[Nino Brown]

Nov 24, 2020 14:20:53 GMT -5 jameskay said:

dont really understand how it would set a horrible precedent or be that tough to keep track of. it seems to me its the same as a protection. MIL gets MIN's 2022 1st round pick if it falls 9-30. If not, it converts to a 2023 1st round pick with 1-3 protection. Here, it would be I get MIN's 2023 1st round pick if it isn't conveyed to MIL (if it falls 1-3). And if it's conveyed to MIL, I get nothing.

that’s not how this works, that’s not how any of this works

[jameskay]

Nov 24, 2020 14:20:53 GMT -5 jameskay said:

dont really understand how it would set a horrible precedent or be that tough to keep track of. it seems to me its the same as a protection. MIL gets MIN's 2022 1st round pick if it falls 9-30. If not, it converts to a 2023 1st round pick with 1-3 protection. Here, it would be I get MIN's 2023 1st round pick if it isn't conveyed to MIL (if it falls 1-3). And if it's conveyed to MIL, I get nothing.

billy is this not gonna happen? as i’ve said I don’t think it would be too difficult to just know that pick swaps are subordinate to non conveying protected picks.

in any case, just take out the swap I guess, i’ll still do it

[billy]

Nov 25, 2020 11:49:17 GMT -5 jameskay said:

Nov 24, 2020 14:20:53 GMT -5 jameskay said:

dont really understand how it would set a horrible precedent or be that tough to keep track of. it seems to me its the same as a protection. MIL gets MIN's 2022 1st round pick if it falls 9-30. If not, it converts to a 2023 1st round pick with 1-3 protection. Here, it would be I get MIN's 2023 1st round pick if it isn't conveyed to MIL (if it falls 1-3). And if it's conveyed to MIL, I get nothing.

billy is this not gonna happen? as i’ve said I don’t think it would be too difficult to just know that pick swaps are subordinate to non conveying protected picks.

in any case, just take out the swap I guess, i’ll still do it

No dude its not happening i already said that i understand what youre saying and its just too convoluted and dumb we arent having conditional pick swaps. the draft rights page is already stupid enough as is.

we don't have to be constantly changing and pushing rules farther and farther. there is already way more intricate details to this league than something like D5 that doesnt have protections or rfa at all

[jameskay]

Nov 25, 2020 12:14:24 GMT -5 billy said:

Nov 25, 2020 11:49:17 GMT -5 jameskay said:

billy is this not gonna happen? as i’ve said I don’t think it would be too difficult to just know that pick swaps are subordinate to non conveying protected picks.

in any case, just take out the swap I guess, i’ll still do it

No dude its not happening i already said that i understand what youre saying and its just too convoluted and dumb we arent having conditional pick swaps. the draft rights page is already stupid enough as is.

we don't have to be constantly changing and pushing rules farther and farther. there is already way more intricate details to this league than something like D5 that doesnt have protections or rfa at all

ok why is this in rejected i said just take the 23 swap out

[billy]

Nov 25, 2020 21:14:39 GMT -5 jameskay said:

Nov 25, 2020 12:14:24 GMT -5 billy said:

No dude its not happening i already said that i understand what youre saying and its just too convoluted and dumb we arent having conditional pick swaps. the draft rights page is already stupid enough as is.

we don't have to be constantly changing and pushing rules farther and farther. there is already way more intricate details to this league than something like D5 that doesnt have protections or rfa at all

ok why is this in rejected i said just take the 23 swap out

because the trade in this thread is illegal if you want to do a different trade that is legal you need to post a new thread

[jameskay]

accept