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Post by Stuff The Magic Dragon on Jan 8, 2019 21:39:59 GMT -5
Amazing what he's doing with that team who lost their starting PG in Murray. They got DeRozan this season though. I would say what they are doing now is as impressive as what they did last season. To me the real value about Popovich is that the nba changed a lot during the last decades but he was able to adjust and be elite each and every time. And he even won while resting players. definitely
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Post by David Robinson on Jan 8, 2019 21:42:32 GMT -5
No one hates the 3 point shot more than Pop
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Post by Jackie Kong on Jan 8, 2019 23:30:30 GMT -5
He doesn't hate them but he is totally against that Morey philosophy that if is not a 3 pointer or a shot close to the basket it doesn't count. That's for sure.
Spurs were actually in the upper half of 3 pointers attempts per possession during their last glory era and before teams went 3 point crazy.
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Post by Scott Pilgrim on Jan 14, 2019 22:57:30 GMT -5
What do you think a trade for Dennis Smith Jr. might look like?
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Post by Scott Pilgrim on Jan 14, 2019 23:10:07 GMT -5
What do you think a trade for Dennis Smith Jr. might look like?
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Post by Jackie Kong on Jan 14, 2019 23:13:40 GMT -5
No offence but you are delusional with each and every one of those trade ideas.
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Post by Yeezy on Jan 14, 2019 23:33:52 GMT -5
DSJ for Bender, boom.
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Post by Scott Pilgrim on Jan 14, 2019 23:40:45 GMT -5
No offence but you are delusional with each and every one of those trade ideas. How?
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Post by Jackie Kong on Jan 14, 2019 23:43:59 GMT -5
Mavs will most likely get a highly protected 1st in return if they decide to move him. That's about what you get in this scenarios.
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Post by billy on Jan 15, 2019 0:01:37 GMT -5
What do you think a trade for Dennis Smith Jr. might look like? ironically it's doncic's back who should be sore
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Post by Scott Pilgrim on Jan 15, 2019 0:39:27 GMT -5
Mavs will most likely get a highly protected 1st in return if they decide to move him. That's about what you get in this scenarios. I doubt he's valued that low, he was the 9th pick and he still has 3 year's left before his RFA. Both Orlando and Phoenix are in sore need of a PG, with them starting DJ Augustin and Deanthony Melton respectively. They both have a logjam in their frontcourt. Pheonix have TJ Warren, Josh Jackson, Mikal Bridges and Kelly Oubre, all wing players, and in the next draft, the two best prospects are a SG in RJ and a PF/SF in Zion. Even after those 2 prospects, the 2019 draft is just filled with wing players. Have a look.Orlando are probably looking to re-sign Vucevic, so that leaves Bamba in a peculiar place, he and Vucevic can't be played together and even if you do persist on trying to do it, you'll be forcing Gordon to SF which has been downright horrible for the Magic in the past, not to mention where would Issac fit? SG lol?
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Post by Jackie Kong on Jan 15, 2019 1:23:36 GMT -5
I just don't think Smith is the kind of pg that once he becomes available teams are eager to get which is the same reason why Mavs are making him available.
Sorry for calling you delusional though, lol.
I just don't see the trades you proposed happening. Magic might have too many bigs but that was also the case when they drafted Bamba and as far as I can tell they are very much looking to develop both Bamba and Isaac.
About Smith for Jackson and a 1st I don't understand what's the purpose of the 1st, lol. If Smith being last year's 9th pick matters it is even more relevant that Jackson went 4th. Jackson didn't have the best start of the season but he is doing better lately so they probably wont give up on him that easily unless they get good value back.
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Post by Scott Pilgrim on Jan 15, 2019 2:07:32 GMT -5
I just don't think Smith is the kind of pg that once he becomes available teams are eager to get which is the same reason why Mavs are making him available. Sorry for calling you delusional though, lol. I just don't see the trades you proposed happening. Magic might have too many bigs but that was also the case when they drafted Bamba and as far as I can tell they are very much looking to develop both Bamba and Isaac. About Smith for Jackson and a 1st I don't understand what's the purpose of the 1st, lol. If Smith being last year's 9th pick matters it is even more relevant that Jackson went 4th. Jackson didn't have the best start of the season but he is doing better lately so they probably wont give up on him that easily unless they get good value back. Because the Suns have a positional need for a PG that fits in their timeline, DSJ's value increases. Since they have logjam at the forward position, Josh Jackson's value decreases. Plus the pick is Milwaulkee's 1st, most likely going to be 25 - 30. Though apparently Suns don't have interest according to a local Arizona writer/sports host. Signing restriction of Gordon looks to expire tomorrow... just in time of this news of DSJ trade speculation coming out. I wouldn't be surprised if a trade consists of DSJ/Matthews for Gordon/Bad Contract.
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Post by Penny Hardaway on Jan 16, 2019 17:16:44 GMT -5
No offence but you are delusional with each and every one of those trade ideas. I think your underselling him.... Smith hasnt been horrible or isnt a bust this is only his 2nd yr ,he just isn't a fit with Luka who handles the ball as much as Smith does. Lets not forget Smith had a pretty good rookie year and actually this year his shooting % and Defense are up, this is about a fit not that he is garbage and plus he his is still on his rookie contract , that right there is worth the gamble especially from a lotto pick from just a year ago. I bet DSJ gets traded either for another propect Bamba or Isaac ... Or they go the DSJ /Matthews for a Vuvecic and something or Grordon and something. I could even see Fournier and something as well if dallas is desperate. I
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Post by Jackie Kong on Jan 16, 2019 17:28:27 GMT -5
Smith Jr. and Matthews for Hardaway Jr. and Ntilikina.
That I can see it.
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Post by Stuff The Magic Dragon on Jan 16, 2019 17:34:34 GMT -5
Smith Jr. and Matthews for Hardaway Jr. and Ntilikina. That I can see it. hater
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Post by Penny Hardaway on Jan 16, 2019 17:35:05 GMT -5
Smith Jr. and Matthews for Hardaway Jr. and Ntilikina. That I can see it. Dallas doesnt want another Pg and if they did it wouldnt be ntililina he doesnt fit Luka as he cant shoot..... Plus Brunson s better then Ntilikina and why would they want Hardaway jr. and his contract if they are trying to unload Matthews?. Hardaway jr would cripple them moving forward.
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Post by Jackie Kong on Jan 16, 2019 17:35:48 GMT -5
LOL. What? It is me against the whole Mavericks fan base. Give me a break, ha.
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Post by Penny Hardaway on Jan 16, 2019 17:43:02 GMT -5
LOL. What? It is me against the whole Mavericks fan base. Give me a break, ha. Lol i know im a mavs fan, but also a smith fan , hate to see him being traded but its obvious it wont work, Smith cant play off ball as he cant catch and shoot, but he is making strides defensively and his fg and 3pt % from last year rose, it would be good for both teams. Smith will get to play PG mainly and continue to grow and Dallas hopefully brings in better fit next to luka. Im also praying they get rid of matthews and his contract asap.
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Post by Scott Pilgrim on Jan 16, 2019 18:26:28 GMT -5
Smith Jr. and Matthews for Hardaway Jr. and Ntilikina. That I can see it. Good trade, Ntilikina is already really good at defence just very horrible at offence. Since Rick Carlisle is the PG whisperer, I bet he could massively improve him in that area of the game in the future. THJ would need to be a 6th Man in the system as I think he's heavily iso ball and ball dominant, which is sort of the role Wes has played this season, would be an upgrade of sorts.
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Post by billy on Jan 16, 2019 18:28:49 GMT -5
Who is Scott Pilgrim and can I be Billy Pilgrim
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Post by Penny Hardaway on Jan 16, 2019 18:30:50 GMT -5
Who is Scott Pilgrim and can I be Billy Pilgrim Micheal Cera and sure why not your commish
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Post by Scott Pilgrim on Jan 16, 2019 19:41:41 GMT -5
Who is Scott Pilgrim and can I be Billy Pilgrim Scott is the titular hero from the graphic novel series "Scott Pilgrim". He must defeat Ramona Flowers' seven evil ex-boyfriends in order to date her. He plays bass guitar in the band Sex Bob-omb. sourceYeah, and he's also played by Michael Cera in his movie adaptation Fo sure you can be Billy Pilgrim.
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Post by Jackie Kong on Jan 18, 2019 1:20:04 GMT -5
LOL
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Post by Scott Pilgrim on Jan 18, 2019 1:23:14 GMT -5
someone random drug test him please
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Post by Penny Hardaway on Jan 18, 2019 1:24:37 GMT -5
someone random drug test him please Literally was just reading this. What an idiot
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Post by Steve Jobs on Jan 18, 2019 5:41:11 GMT -5
Smith Jr. and Matthews for Hardaway Jr. and Ntilikina. That I can see it. Good trade, Ntilikina is already really good at defence just very horrible at offence. Since Rick Carlisle is the PG whisperer, I bet he could massively improve him in that area of the game in the future. THJ would need to be a 6th Man in the system as I think he's heavily iso ball and ball dominant, which is sort of the role Wes has played this season, would be an upgrade of sorts. Rick Carlisle... PG Whisperer?...
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Post by Scott Pilgrim on Jan 18, 2019 6:09:18 GMT -5
Good trade, Ntilikina is already really good at defence just very horrible at offence. Since Rick Carlisle is the PG whisperer, I bet he could massively improve him in that area of the game in the future. THJ would need to be a 6th Man in the system as I think he's heavily iso ball and ball dominant, which is sort of the role Wes has played this season, would be an upgrade of sorts. Rick Carlisle... PG Whisperer?... He managed to get Felton, Barea, Williams, Harris, Ferrell, Calderon to play quality minutes when they were past their prime/just coming into the league.
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Post by Steve Jobs on Jan 18, 2019 6:24:39 GMT -5
Rick Carlisle... PG Whisperer?... He managed to get Felton, Barea, Williams, Harris, Ferrell, Calderon to play quality minutes when they were past their prime/just coming into the league. He also was too stubborn to make things work with Rondo and this whole conversation started cause he couldn’t get the most out of his most recent PG lottery pick. He’s a decent offensive coach, but he’s certainly not the PG whisperer.
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Post by Penny Hardaway on Jan 18, 2019 6:30:15 GMT -5
He managed to get Felton, Barea, Williams, Harris, Ferrell, Calderon to play quality minutes when they were past their prime/just coming into the league. He also was too stubborn to make things work with Rondo and this whole conversation started cause he couldn’t get the most out of his most recent PG lottery pick. He’s a decent offensive coach, but he’s certainly not the PG whisperer. Why cant it be Rondo was to stubburn as he wanted to change the coaches plays and thats what led to what happened. And the DSJ situation ia about DSJ Ego , he doent want to take a back seat to Luka. It was his team last year at pg but since Luka is the better playmaker he's had to play off ball now and he doesnt like it, sounds like a immature young PG, Or Carlisle asked him to come off the bench since Barea got hurt and hes not having it , rather be traded. Reports show its his agent and DSJ requesting for the trade.
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