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Post by Donald Trump on Jul 13, 2015 0:30:25 GMT -5
Judging by the performances of the rookies so far in the summer league, who do you think will be a star, a bust and a steal??
I think Mudiay will be the top prospect in this class and has high chance of winning the ROY then D'Angelo Russell is the most obvious bust. Bobby Portis looks like the steal of this draft.
How about you guys what are your opinion?
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Post by Steve Jobs on Jul 13, 2015 0:31:02 GMT -5
God Damnit AJ.
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Post by Donald Trump on Jul 13, 2015 0:33:37 GMT -5
i just want to see the opinions of the other people about this rookie class, hehe im interested to see the evaluation of D720 people
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Post by Steve Jobs on Jul 13, 2015 0:34:53 GMT -5
I'm gonna guess that most of them don't try to evaluate a player's entire future based on summer league, because we all know that's a waste of time. lol
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Post by Donald Trump on Jul 13, 2015 0:38:55 GMT -5
I'm gonna guess that most of them don't try to evaluate a player's entire future based on summer league, because we all know that's a waste of time. lol summer league was created so that the rookies can showcase their skillset and what they would look like if they played in the regular NBA game so i don't think that summer league is meaningless
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Post by billy on Jul 13, 2015 0:39:26 GMT -5
Austin rivers tore up summer league
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Post by Steve Jobs on Jul 13, 2015 0:44:17 GMT -5
Summer league is 15% rookies showcasing skills, 50% giving younger players some extra reps to keep them up to speed and in shape, and 35% about having basketball on so that people are interested in basketball. Elite players have had average summer league performances, All Time Greats have had awful summer league performances, and more often than not the terrible players that never learn to play as a team player hog the ball at summer league and put up crazy counting stats in the hopes that someone will be mildly impressed and give them a chance.
I'm not saying summer league is entirely pointless, but it would be different if I thought you wanted to hear anything other than "Russell is awful and going to bust 100% lololol hehe."
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Post by Donald Trump on Jul 13, 2015 0:47:35 GMT -5
Summer league is 15% rookies showcasing skills, 50% giving younger players some extra reps to keep them up to speed and in shape, and 35% about having basketball on so that people are interested in basketball. Elite players have had average summer league performances, All Time Greats have had awful summer league performances, and more often than not the terrible players that never learn to play as a team player hog the ball at summer league and put up crazy counting stats in the hopes that someone will be mildly impressed and give them a chance. I'm not saying summer league is entirely pointless, but it would be different if I thought you wanted to hear anything other than "Russell is awful and going to bust 100% lololol hehe." all time greats didnt have awful summer league performances, look at kobe, lebron, melo,curry,westbrook,wade and others performances they all wrecked havoc during the summer league and continued their great performances in the actual nba games.. my point is if you cant even play good in a summer league game where opponents dont take it seriously and dont play good defense, what more in an actual nba game?? hehe
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Post by Steve Jobs on Jul 13, 2015 1:03:01 GMT -5
Tim Duncan had a very lack luster summer league performance. Guys like DeAndre Jordan and David West gave bad summer league performances. It's not exactly unprecedented to see good nba performers not showing up in the summer league. It's practically a completely different game with a complete lack of chemistry and while it can sometimes be used as a good bench mark for things to come, it's absolutely not a very accurate way to measure a player's potential.
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Post by Steve Jobs on Jul 13, 2015 1:04:56 GMT -5
Not to mention the rampancy of awful NBA players putting up staggering numbers in the summer league. An unselfish guy like Russell that likes to pass and does it well was never going to blow people away with his scoring in the summer league. Athleticism and learning the speed of the game don't always go hand in hand, and it's always worth waiting to find out how a player will react in a real NBA game rather than passing judgment this early.
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Post by Reggie Miller on Jul 13, 2015 2:17:58 GMT -5
Ok so if we would only based this looking at their stats in the summer league I'm impressed about these rookies.. Myles Turner, Justice Winslow, Stanley Johnson, Mario Hezonja, Jahlil Okafor and specially KAT.. but on all of the players that participated on the summer league I'm very impressed to Jordan Clarkson.. He could be the next Kobe
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Post by Donald Trump on Jul 13, 2015 2:21:09 GMT -5
Ok so if we would only based this looking at their stats in the summer league I'm impressed about these rookies.. Myles Turner, Justice Winslow, Stanley Johnson, Mario Hezonja, Jahlil Okafor and specially KAT.. but on all of the players that participated on the summer league I'm very impressed to Jordan Clarkson.. He could be the next Kobe i just hope that clarkson can sustain it through the regular season
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Post by Gheorghe Mureșan on Jul 13, 2015 22:46:22 GMT -5
Bobby Ray Parks Jr. is definitely a STEAL! haha.. But seriously, I want to see him shoot and have some touches. Mudiay is definitely a RoY calibre, I like Okafor's game, haven't seen KAT played, Russell is meh, dunno why Turner isn't in the top 8 of the draft. I really want to see Dario Saric play.
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Post by Donald Trump on Jul 14, 2015 6:17:53 GMT -5
Bobby Ray Parks Jr. is definitely a STEAL! haha.. But seriously, I want to see him shoot and have some touches. Mudiay is definitely a RoY calibre, I like Okafor's game, haven't seen KAT played, Russell is meh, dunno why Turner isn't in the top 8 of the draft. I really want to see Dario Saric play. another stinking, disappointing and dogshit performance by russell earlier.. i hope he and randle gets traded they are the biggest busts in nba history overhyped but plays like elementary ballers. lakers management sucks in drafting zzzzz.
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Post by Gheorghe Mureșan on Jul 14, 2015 19:23:49 GMT -5
Yeah, russell is overhyped. He had a great college career but that's COLLEGE. lol. What do we expect when the mamba is the boss right?
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Post by Paul Pierce on Jul 14, 2015 19:26:56 GMT -5
Yall are taking summer league so serious lol. Russell is gonna have a solid career, him Clarkson and randall all have promising futures. I do believe that they should have taken okafor or mudiay though. Theres also a chance that Russell becomes a star
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Post by Blake Bowman on Jul 14, 2015 20:54:42 GMT -5
Yall are taking summer league so serious lol. Russell is gonna have a solid career, him Clarkson and randall all have promising futures. I do believe that they should have taken okafor or mudiay though. Theres also a chance that Russell becomes a star They dont understand that summer league isn't shit. #FuckJoshSelby
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Post by Steve Jobs on Jul 14, 2015 21:06:13 GMT -5
Yall are taking summer league so serious lol. Russell is gonna have a solid career, him Clarkson and randall all have promising futures. I do believe that they should have taken okafor or mudiay though. Theres also a chance that Russell becomes a star They dont understand that summer league isn't shit. #FuckJoshSelby I have been trying to say this the entire time. It's stupid as shit. Yeah, LA was stupid to take a PG when they had Clarkson waiting in the wings to be a legitimate starter and had need at Center, but they probably still believed at the time that a deal for Cousins might be possible and didn't think a center was 100% necessary so I can kind of understand... and at the end of the day, if Russell doesn't have a good (if not great) career, I'll be astounded. People forget how much mentoring under Kobe (which Russell is not currently doing) turned Clarkson into a great player. If Russell is diligent and does his best to learn from the veterans (he seems very intelligent so this is virtually guaranteed), then he'll be fine damn it. End rant.
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Post by Donald Trump on Jul 15, 2015 20:29:07 GMT -5
im mad because we passed up on okafor and mudiay just to draft russell.. look at the body language of russell, he has no motivation,no will to win, no killer instinct, no fire power and looks disinterested playing for the lakers a guy with that kind of attitude will never be a good player..not to mention the glaring slowness. he basically has dead legs..why sould we wait for him in the regular season if he cant even win and play good at a summer league game unlike his counterpart mudiay whos killing it! lets just accept the fact that lakers suck at drafting. and all the scouts were wrong
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Post by billy on Jul 15, 2015 20:53:19 GMT -5
im mad because we passed up on okafor and mudiay just to draft russell.. look at the body language of russell, he has no motivation,no will to win, no killer instinct, no fire power and looks disinterested playing for the lakers a guy with that kind of attitude will never be a good player..not to mention the glaring slowness. he basically has dead legs..why sould we wait for him in the regular season if he cant even win and play good at a summer league game unlike his counterpart mudiay whos killing it! lets just accept the fact that lakers suck at drafting. and all the scouts were wrong I'd be mad too. Anyone who had Russell ranked over Mudiay or even more amazing Okafur are completely retarded. I don't want to give away my big board because of our draft that will be coming up and future posturing... but Russell isn't in my top 5. Neither is KAT. :D
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Post by Reggie Miller on Jul 15, 2015 21:04:57 GMT -5
Even Porzingis maybe worth more than Russell?
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Post by billy on Jul 15, 2015 21:22:59 GMT -5
Even Porzingis maybe worth more than Russell? Porzingas will be an all decade player.
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Post by Reggie Miller on Jul 15, 2015 21:35:51 GMT -5
Yeah.. He reminds me of Dirk when he first play in the NBA.. Many people also judge him but he proved them wrong
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Post by Reggie Miller on Jul 15, 2015 21:36:25 GMT -5
He's one on my top 5 in the draft
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Post by Donald Trump on Jul 15, 2015 21:49:08 GMT -5
from what i saw in summer league
Mudiay - A+
Okafor - A
Winslow - C
Russell - F
Stanley Johnson - A
Cauley Stein - A-
Portis - A
Porzingis - A+
Towns - B
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Post by Reggie Miller on Jul 15, 2015 21:54:45 GMT -5
from what i saw in summer league Mudiay - A+ Okafor - A Winslow - C Russell - F Stanley Johnson - A Cauley Stein - A- Portis - A Porzingis - A+ Towns - B Don't forget Turner and Kaminsky.. I'm eager to see how Cam Payne will look like on the court.. I really liked him for the Pacers but they choose Turner instead of him
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Post by John Stockton on Jul 15, 2015 21:55:53 GMT -5
from what i saw in summer league Mudiay - A+ Okafor - A Winslow - C Russell - F Stanley Johnson - A Cauley Stein - A- Portis - A Porzingis - A+ Towns - B Don't forget Turner and Kaminsky.. I'm eager to see how Cam Payne will look like on the court.. I really liked him for the Pacers but they choose Turner instead of him i know everyone is raving bout turner, how did kaminsky do?
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Post by Reggie Miller on Jul 15, 2015 21:58:08 GMT -5
He didn't do too much but I think he is perfect for Charlotte
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Post by Donald Trump on Jul 15, 2015 21:58:39 GMT -5
hehe sorry i haven't seen much of turner and kaminsky to give grade on them hehe but im reading that they are both performing well
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Post by Reggie Miller on Jul 15, 2015 22:14:29 GMT -5
I'll grade him Kaminsky B
Turner A
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