billy
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Post by billy on Jan 29, 2019 12:59:57 GMT -5
Hey.
I don't like doing this anymore. I'm not looking for a bunch of "but billy 90% of us love you" posts here, this thread is not about that, it's about finding a new commish. Me hating this is not about the love or lack thereof. Ya'll are great.I just fucking hate logging on now and am not gonna be doing it anymore out of responsibility.
That being said, the league file is freely available and if someone wants to go about posting sims, processing trades/dcs, and rating players, I strongly encourage you to keep this going.
Honestly, those jobs could be split up into 3 jobs, and then rule change type decisions could be put to a vote. Some type of crowdfunded commissioner.
I liked this enough back before I had to start doing these ratings, I figured I had a pretty good system in place but I'm just not equipped with the temperment to handle the kind of backlash this shit has brought, and I know it's not going to stop.
Let me know who decides to do what and I can give ya'll the admin powers and you can keep on chugging. The temporary lull in sims will just fix the we were ahead issue.
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Post by Ron Artest(1x Champ) on Jan 29, 2019 13:09:12 GMT -5
Bro just scrap the overall shit, or at least make them anonymous. Rebuilds can stay, but there should honestly be a vote or bring back the stock watch thing. There isn’t anything wrong with rebuilds if you’re presenting a fair case, sans someone being extremely affective by advanced metrics. The problem lies with people thinking their players should put up 40-15 every game when the sim doesn’t work that way. I’d say about 98% of the players mimic their real life effectiveness in this sim. There are outliers, but nothing’s perfect. Idk how we got this far where a Commish is literally stepping down though, I mean goodness man.
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Yeezy
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Post by Yeezy on Jan 29, 2019 13:13:01 GMT -5
Waittttttt can we just have someone else do the ratings and you stay as Commish? Who wants to do ratings?
@xavier0717
I don't know enough about NBA to do it
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Yeezy
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Post by Yeezy on Jan 29, 2019 13:19:38 GMT -5
Bro just scrap the overall shit, or at least make them anonymous. Rebuilds can stay, but there should honestly be a vote or bring back the stock watch thing. There isn’t anything wrong with rebuilds if you’re presenting a fair case, sans someone being extremely affective by advanced metrics. The problem lies with people thinking their players should put up 40-15 every game when the sim doesn’t work that way. I’d say about 98% of the players mimic their real life effectiveness in this sim. There are outliers, but nothing’s perfect. Idk how we got this far where a Commish is literally stepping down though, I mean goodness man. Spending hours a day to have people constantly complain about something you're doing for free is really fucking frustrating. If Billy isn't getting enjoyment out of something then why keep doing it? Someone just pick up the ratings?
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Post by Ron Artest(1x Champ) on Jan 29, 2019 13:22:51 GMT -5
Bro just scrap the overall shit, or at least make them anonymous. Rebuilds can stay, but there should honestly be a vote or bring back the stock watch thing. There isn’t anything wrong with rebuilds if you’re presenting a fair case, sans someone being extremely affective by advanced metrics. The problem lies with people thinking their players should put up 40-15 every game when the sim doesn’t work that way. I’d say about 98% of the players mimic their real life effectiveness in this sim. There are outliers, but nothing’s perfect. Idk how we got this far where a Commish is literally stepping down though, I mean goodness man. Spending hours a day to have people constantly complain about something you're doing for free is really fucking frustrating. If Billy isn't getting enjoyment out of something then why keep doing it? Someone just pick up the ratings?
The ratings shouldn’t be done by someone that’s already a GM of a team, that could become a problem within itself. The current ratings are fine...
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Theodore Duncan
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Post by Theodore Duncan on Jan 29, 2019 14:40:51 GMT -5
Damn. If I was still in my old work I could do more for sure, but now after just starting new one don't have that much time to spare. At least until things settle down in some months.
I don't get why people still keep complaining about ratings. Finally we have awesome impartial system based on stats on not some voting system that favours overrated guys who play on big market teams but are actually just super inefficient. And Billy did a great job of explaining also what is happening. Some people just don't take time to try understand it.
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Scott Pilgrim
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Post by Scott Pilgrim on Jan 29, 2019 14:42:13 GMT -5
I think the best resolution would be someone else to take control of player ratings, imo.
Kong or Stuff would be great for that role.
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Nino Brown
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Post by Nino Brown on Jan 29, 2019 14:59:09 GMT -5
Why cant we go back to the way it was with stock watches thats voted on and discussed by all of us. Im willing to help any way possible and i understand ive asked questions but im not the only 1. And i completely understand why this is frusterating for billy! That being said if he doesnt have the desire or needs a break lets figure this shit out. Scott pilgrim hasn't been here long and who knows if he has the time but he seems very knowledgeable about this! you’re gonna whine about it regardless.
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Jan 29, 2019 15:06:19 GMT -5
It's okay that you don't want to do it anymore, man. billy , will you come back as a GM if we get our act together and crowdfund this commish thing?
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Jackie Kong
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Post by Jackie Kong on Jan 29, 2019 15:44:08 GMT -5
I think the best resolution would be someone else to take control of player ratings, imo. You are still new but I think you already proved that you know about the engine (particularly the new version) as much as anyone. If there is a committee for ratings you should be in it I think. Of course that assuming Billy doens't reconsider his decision which would be a pity.
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billy
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Post by billy on Jan 29, 2019 17:08:39 GMT -5
It's okay that you don't want to do it anymore, man. billy , will you come back as a GM if we get our act together and crowdfund this commish thing? for my last act as commissioner i'll be firing KG and taking over the timberwolves
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billy
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Post by billy on Jan 29, 2019 17:33:38 GMT -5
and for my first act as minnesota GM I request a REBUILD OF BRADLEY BEAL
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Jackie Kong
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Post by Jackie Kong on Jan 29, 2019 17:40:32 GMT -5
God dammit KG, stop it. Billy gave you a chance in here when others wouldn't. He even gave your son a chance. Now, he is trying to calm the water with humour and you can't see beyond your own lawn.
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Yeezy
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Post by Yeezy on Jan 29, 2019 17:51:18 GMT -5
billy's back baby!!
let's crowdfund him a bottle of whiskey for his efforts
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Jan 29, 2019 18:02:55 GMT -5
Lmfao can't decide if Billy is joking or not about firing KG
Also--I'll volunteer to update draft pick rights after trades. I'm not good with technology or math tbh and my computer is trash, so I think I'm a bad candidate for simming/ratings, but the draft rights page is something I can take control of if that's good with y'all.
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Yeezy
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Post by Yeezy on Jan 29, 2019 18:06:20 GMT -5
I vote not to give Brian rights to any doc has he is proving to be a vindicative GM
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Jan 29, 2019 18:09:50 GMT -5
Also--I think we should institute some sort of grace period for administrative tasks to get done--trades to get proccessed, depth charts updated in tje son, ect.
My least favorite thing about the league right now is GMs being pushy about getting stuff through "before the next sim"... I get that we're all trying to do what's best for our teams--but getting all that stuff done is thankless work and being entitled over it is REALLY not cute. It's not really something that was a problem in the first couple seasons.
I think if you could always expect for things to take about a week to get changed, you could fucking live with it and not whine over it. It is just a game after all--and even irl you don't have players playing their first game for their new team day god damn one after a trade.
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Jan 29, 2019 18:10:25 GMT -5
I vote not to give Brian rights to any doc has he is proving to be a vindicative GM Lol okay then
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Post by Stuff The Magic Dragon on Jan 29, 2019 18:33:31 GMT -5
I think the best resolution would be someone else to take control of player ratings, imo. Kong or Stuff would be great for that role. lol not me
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David Robinson
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Post by David Robinson on Jan 29, 2019 20:46:55 GMT -5
I'll offer a second rounder if someone can give me a recap of what just happened, with quotes.
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Post by Penny Hardaway on Jan 29, 2019 22:38:50 GMT -5
I'll offer a second rounder if someone can give me a recap of what just happened, with quotes. Billy: "ratings don't matter in new engine" Gm's: "complain, complain , complain" Billy: "once again ratings dont matter" Gm's: "complain, complain , complain" Billy: "enough is enough I'm stepping down as commish" Gm's: "please don't go , baby don't go" Billy: "love you guys to but still.." Gms: "alright stay as some kind of postion" Billy: "Hmmm ok fuck Kg , give me Minny , Rebuild Beal, best of luck to new commish or commish by commitee" Gms: "cool we got Billy to stay , now just need a commish to run it"
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Post by Tracy McGrady on Jan 29, 2019 22:45:22 GMT -5
I'll offer a second rounder if someone can give me a recap of what just happened, with quotes. Billy: "ratings don't matter in new engine" Gm's: "complain, complain , complain" Billy: "once again ratings dont matter" Gm's: "complain, complain , complain" Billy: "enough is enough I'm stepping down as commish" Gm's: "please don't go , baby don't go" Billy: "love you guys to but still.." Gms: "alright stay as some kind of postion" Billy: "Hmmm ok fuck Kg , give me Minny , Rebuild Beal, best of luck to new commish or commish by commitee" Gms: "cool we got Billy to stay , now just need a commish to run it" trade passed
I understand billy, that rebuild system is pretty tedious and really a hard one, so much workload and it is not rewarding. So hard no one can't volunteer to take it. In other leagues, they only do rebuild twice or thrice, start - mid and end of season.
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Post by Kareem Abdul-Jabbar on Jan 30, 2019 0:29:46 GMT -5
Maybe it's better to have other Simulator, I actually really don't like BGM. LOL ^^
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Post by Stuff The Magic Dragon on Jan 30, 2019 0:33:00 GMT -5
Maybe it's better to have other Simulator, I actually really don't like BGM. LOL ^^ what would you suggest?
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Post by Kareem Abdul-Jabbar on Jan 30, 2019 0:49:46 GMT -5
Maybe it's better to have other Simulator, I actually really don't like BGM. LOL ^^ what would you suggest? The problem with BGM is that you have a good idea who will win. You can sim it million times to see if you have a chance. I rather have like those sim engines that only the simmer knows. You get me? I want it to be more suspense. Maybe with that we can lessen the arguments about those ratings. ^^
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Scott Pilgrim
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Post by Scott Pilgrim on Jan 30, 2019 1:01:00 GMT -5
The problem with BGM is that you have a good idea who will win. You can sim it million times to see if you have a chance. I rather have like those sim engines that only the simmer knows. You get me? I want it to be more suspense. Maybe with that we can lessen the arguments about those ratings. ^^ Then what's the point of building a team when results are random?
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Nino Brown
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Post by Nino Brown on Jan 30, 2019 1:06:45 GMT -5
The problem with BGM is that you have a good idea who will win. You can sim it million times to see if you have a chance. I rather have like those sim engines that only the simmer knows. You get me? I want it to be more suspense. Maybe with that we can lessen the arguments about those ratings. ^^ you can say that about real life nba to an extent. Think about the past champions(favorites), the nba has never been about parity. That doesn’t make it any less entertaining. A GM’s job is to put the best foot forward in regards to building a championship team.
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Post by Stuff The Magic Dragon on Jan 30, 2019 1:17:12 GMT -5
Maybe what he meant was making the league file less accessible so the sim would be more suspenseful
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Post by Penny Hardaway on Jan 30, 2019 5:56:26 GMT -5
Maybe it's better to have other Simulator, I actually really don't like BGM. LOL ^^ I hate BGM its so off , i honestly think FBB is better by a long shot, only thing is is outdated and we would have to create a new roster file, thats only reason i never started up a fbb league, remaking the roster and ratings would be a bitch, but at least its not as weird boxscores as BGM. Also since its a sim i would suggest doa year one master rebuild then after that let the ratings playout and no more rebuilds ever.fbb has its own rating system that changes ailutomatically at offseason ever year.
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Nino Brown
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Post by Nino Brown on Jan 30, 2019 7:05:36 GMT -5
Even if we switch simulators, it’d still be cool to finish out the season. Everything went to shit way too fast.
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