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Post by Blake Bowman on Jul 13, 2015 22:03:10 GMT -5
BULLS 74 :: Kevin Love :: $15,719,063 - $16,744,219
69 :: Eric Bledsoe :: $13,000,000 - $13,500,000 - $14,000,000 - $14,500,000 - $15,000,000 Total Out: $28,719,063
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65 :: Tobias Harris :: $2,511,432 - $3,581,302
47 :: Glen Rice Jr :: $1,500,000 - $1,499,999 - $1,489,799
44 :: Shabazz Napier :: $1,238,640 - $1,294,440 - $1,350,120 - $2,361,359 - $3,452,308
2015 1st LAC 2016 1st LAL 2016 2nd LAC 2016 2nd LAL 2017 1st LAC 2017 2nd LAL 2018 2nd LAC 2018 2nd LAL Total In: $5,250,072
CLIPPERS
61 :: Brendan Wright :: $5,000,000
61 :: Kevin Garnett :: $12,000,000
2015 1st
2016 2nd
2017 1st
2018 2nd Total Out: $17,000,000
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74 :: Kevin Love :: $15,719,063 - $16,744,219 Total In: $15,719,063
LAKERS
65 :: Tobias Harris :: $2,511,432 - $3,581,302
47 :: Glen Rice Jr :: $1,500,000 - $1,499,999 - $1,489,799 44 :: Shabazz Napier :: $1,238,640 - $1,294,440 - $1,350,120 - $2,361,359 - $3,452,308
2016 1st
2016 2nd
2017 2nd
2018 2nd Total Out: $5,250,072
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69 :: Eric Bledsoe :: $13,000,000 - $13,500,000 - $14,000,000 - $14,500,000 - $15,000,000 61 :: Brendan Wright :: $5,000,000 61 :: Kevin Garnett :: $12,000,000 Total In: $30,000,000 - I have the cap space to take this money on to make this deal legal.
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Paul Pierce
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Post by Paul Pierce on Jul 13, 2015 22:10:03 GMT -5
I accept, with my current core I do not think I can contend and I also don't have the bird rights to Love. In this trade I get 3 first round picks and Tobias Harris who I believe has a bright future. I also will be able to tank for this season
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Steve Jobs
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Post by Steve Jobs on Jul 13, 2015 22:11:40 GMT -5
My understanding is that you have to pick in the first round at least once every other year, so unless LAC has extra first round picks from other trades, they can't possibly offer more than 2. I don't know if this is 100% true, but if it is than this trade is illegal.
Also, even if it's not, it's just kind of a mess. Not sure I want to accept it regardless.
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Paul Pierce
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Post by Paul Pierce on Jul 13, 2015 22:12:38 GMT -5
they are offering 2015 and 2017 and the lakers are offering the 2016
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Post by Blake Bowman on Jul 13, 2015 22:12:52 GMT -5
I accept, my pick next year is a big risk with injuries being implemented. I love Bledsoe, and can't pass up on a chance to get him. Tobias is a solid piece, but I'd rather have Bledsoe. This deal ultimately aids each team's goal for this season.
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Steve Jobs
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Post by Steve Jobs on Jul 13, 2015 22:15:34 GMT -5
Yeah, sorry. Difficult to sort out on my phone. Let me get back home and try to interpret this deal on my computer.
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Post by Blake Bowman on Jul 13, 2015 22:16:09 GMT -5
My understanding is that you have to pick in the first round at least once every other year, so unless LAC has extra first round picks from other trades, they can't possibly offer more than 2. I don't know if this is 100% true, but if it is than this trade is illegal. Also, even if it's not, it's just kind of a mess. Not sure I want to accept it regardless. How is this a mess, it's a legal trade that gives everyone who they want. I'm a vet in sim leagues and I'll be here till the end; I know Chicago from past leagues and he knows what he's doing, he has a plan and he is rolling with it; the Clippers is a huge fan of Love and is trying to win now... I don't understand how this is a "mess". |
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Post by James K. Polk on Jul 13, 2015 22:17:24 GMT -5
I accept, my pick next year is a big risk with injuries being implemented. I love Bledsoe, and can't pass up on a chance to get him. Tobias is a solid piece, but I'd rather have Bledsoe. This deal ultimately aids each team's goal for this season. The picks are messed up in what the Bulls get |
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Post by Blake Bowman on Jul 13, 2015 22:18:00 GMT -5
That may have sounded aggressive, and I don't want it to have.. my point in the post was that it took us awhile to put it together and I thought we presented it well, can I can do anything to make it easier to understand?
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Post by Blake Bowman on Jul 13, 2015 22:18:52 GMT -5
I accept, my pick next year is a big risk with injuries being implemented. I love Bledsoe, and can't pass up on a chance to get him. Tobias is a solid piece, but I'd rather have Bledsoe. This deal ultimately aids each team's goal for this season. The picks are messed up in what the Bulls get In what way? |
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Post by James K. Polk on Jul 13, 2015 22:21:55 GMT -5
I accept, Kevin Love is a great addition to my team and will allow me to use Ersan Ilyasova in a 6th man position. He can also put up 3s when need be adding a good scoring option. As for the picks, they're necessary to trade to build a championship team.
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Post by Blake Bowman on Jul 13, 2015 22:22:57 GMT -5
I accept, Kevin Love is a great addition to my team and will allow me to use Ersan Ilyasova in a 6th man position. He can also put up 3s when need be adding a good scoring option. As for the picks, they're necessary to trade to build a championship team. BOGUT LOVE Train will be a rolling |
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Post by James K. Polk on Jul 13, 2015 22:22:46 GMT -5
The picks are messed up in what the Bulls get In what way? Nevermind, the LAC's and LAL's make this tough to read. |
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Post by Steve Jobs on Jul 13, 2015 22:25:28 GMT -5
My understanding is that you have to pick in the first round at least once every other year, so unless LAC has extra first round picks from other trades, they can't possibly offer more than 2. I don't know if this is 100% true, but if it is than this trade is illegal. Also, even if it's not, it's just kind of a mess. Not sure I want to accept it regardless. How is this a mess, it's a legal trade that gives everyone who they want. I'm a vet in sim leagues and I'll be here till the end; I know Chicago from past leagues and he knows what he's doing, he has a plan and he is rolling with it; the Clippers is a huge fan of Love and is trying to win now... I don't understand how this is a "mess". haha, not the legality of it. You're right that it's legal. Just for the same reason Polk said: it's hard to read. That's all I meant. Difficult to take in all the information, especially on mobile, and I wasn't sure right of the bat whether I thought it seemed fair. |
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Post by Blake Bowman on Jul 13, 2015 22:27:46 GMT -5
How is this a mess, it's a legal trade that gives everyone who they want. I'm a vet in sim leagues and I'll be here till the end; I know Chicago from past leagues and he knows what he's doing, he has a plan and he is rolling with it; the Clippers is a huge fan of Love and is trying to win now... I don't understand how this is a "mess". haha, not the legality of it. You're right that it's legal. Just for the same reason Polk said: it's hard to read. That's all I meant. Difficult to take in all the information, especially on mobile, and I wasn't sure right of the bat whether I thought it seemed fair. My bad, I should have color coated the draft picks I guess.. I'll do that now, sorry. |
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Post by Reggie Miller on Jul 13, 2015 22:35:30 GMT -5
The Picks are quite confusing..
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Post by John Stockton on Jul 13, 2015 22:37:10 GMT -5
at first glance this seems like bulls are getting plenty for Love
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Post by Reggie Miller on Jul 13, 2015 22:45:02 GMT -5
This trade will benefit both LAL and most especially LAC
that Curry-Love-Bogut-Deng-Dragic plus a starting five is very good starting line up.. they get Love with only giving up Expiring contracts of Garnett and Wright plus future picks..
The LAL now will have a leader in Bledsoe. Schroeder and Bledsoe combination is quite interesting..
I'm worried about Bulls.. even though there are many picks involved the picks may not guarantee top picks if LAL and LAC have better standings.. giving up Love and a future star Bledsoe for these picks and Tobias Harris who is improving every year still this is not enough for me to reject this so I accept
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Paul Pierce
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Post by Paul Pierce on Jul 13, 2015 22:47:24 GMT -5
I'm also doing this to help ensure I get a top 5 pick this year.
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Steve Jobs
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Post by Steve Jobs on Jul 13, 2015 23:03:41 GMT -5
Yeah, I definitely don't love this trade for the Bulls despite how lopsided it might look at first glance. A ton of factors will come into play between this trade and all of the future draft picks they'll get.
LAC could be straight up baller for at least a couple years, which means their picks won't be worth all that much. LAL improves drastically with this trade as well, and has a good chance to be competitive for 4-5 years with their young roster and all the long contracts, which which means that 2016 first probably won't be worth much either. That said, it's not my job to decide what each trade is worth to each team, just whether the trade is fair, which it is.
Accept. Good luck to all parties involved!
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Post by Donald Trump on Jul 14, 2015 9:06:01 GMT -5
im sorry guys but i will rejec this one..this is too lopsided for chi and the other 2 teams win so much in this trade especially lac..sorry..
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billy
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Post by billy on Jul 14, 2015 12:11:17 GMT -5
I think the best player contract combo in this trade is Bledsoe. The 2nd best is Tobias Harris because he will be on a Max contract after his offseason, but you can keep him because he is a RFA.
I think it's a good trade considering the records and goals of each of the teams.
Accept
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Post by Blake Bowman on Jul 14, 2015 12:53:17 GMT -5
I think the best player contract combo in this trade is Bledsoe. The 2nd best is Tobias Harris because he will be on a Max contract after his offseason, but you can keep him because he is a RFA. I think it's a good trade considering the records and goals of each of the teams. Accept 3-1 how many more votes do we need Billy? |
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Post by billy on Jul 14, 2015 13:21:51 GMT -5
Trade passed please update salary and depth charts :)
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Post by John Stockton on Jul 14, 2015 13:23:57 GMT -5
Trade passed please update salary and depth charts :) how is this trade passed? doesn't it need 4/6 votes? |
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Post by billy on Jul 14, 2015 13:28:16 GMT -5
Trade passed please update salary and depth charts :) how is this trade passed? doesn't it need 4/6 votes? There are only 5 available voters right. |
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Post by billy on Jul 14, 2015 13:29:37 GMT -5
My bad you're right this needs one more accept, for some reason I thought 2 members were on the TC in this trade. Keith Van HornJohn Stocktonwe need your votes :) |
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Post by John Stockton on Jul 14, 2015 14:04:47 GMT -5
The trade supports the GMs' clearly stated plans for their teams. Bulls are trying to tank by giving up Love and Bledsoe for picks while the two LA teams are looking to contend.
The problem with this trade is for what Chicago is giving up, he could get way more. Bledsoe is worth more than Tobias and Love is worth more than those picks. I'm gonna reject.
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Post by Blake Bowman on Jul 14, 2015 14:07:35 GMT -5
Bledsoe isn't just going for Harris, all the picks aren't for Love. And he wouldn't have BRs for Love. Shabazz Napier is a legit prospect too.
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Paul Pierce
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Post by Paul Pierce on Jul 14, 2015 14:09:02 GMT -5
I save a ton of money for next year
I get young players to help rebuild
I get a ton of picks
I don't have BRs on Love
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